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29-10-2007, 12:30 AM
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Pedigree breeding is a relatively new concept in relation to the domestication timeframe and it is becoming know that this narrowing of the gene pool is responsible for many of the genetic diseases that are prevelent in dogs.

Not saying all pedigree breeds should be abandoned but the introduction of new blood ie cross breeding, is way of bringing back health and vigour.

Also the advantages of hybrid vigour is realised in other fields of canine activity eg Lurchers and Sprockers.

And there are many people who just prefer a mongel or cross bred to pedigree. It may be less predicable but you have the benefit of better potential health and longevity.
good post i agree
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30-10-2007, 12:07 AM
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There are millions in rescues worldwide, that doesn't make for a responsible reason for breeding more
There are millions of pure breeds in rescue world wide too, should that not be a reason not to breed more
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30-10-2007, 12:22 AM
In my opinion it has always been byb. People who think it a good idea to breed their dog and not just crosses, a lot of popular breeds are easily accessable to find another owner just as irresponsible with the same breed of dog, kc reg and oppositte sex to yours and bam, there you have it.

Ped, designer crosses, random crosses now disguised as designer, people wanting a bit of extra cash, people just wanting something to do, people wanting to keep a pup for themselves but not regard (or may not even know about) health testing and breed standards.
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30-10-2007, 10:54 AM
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There are millions of pure breeds in rescue world wide too, should that not be a reason not to breed more
but nowhere near as many as crossbreeds/mongrels, that is fact !

Besides any decent breeder only breeds to further their breed...............if they all stopped, all we would be left with is mongrels .
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30-10-2007, 12:32 PM
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but nowhere near as many as crossbreeds/mongrels, that is fact !
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Not in London, a survey carried out by 3 of the largest resuces show 2/3 rds of the dogs they were asked to help were pure breeds!! leaving only 1/3 rd crossbreeds and mongrels
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30-10-2007, 12:37 PM
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There are millions of pure breeds in rescue world wide too, should that not be a reason not to breed more
why?????????????
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30-10-2007, 12:38 PM
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but nowhere near as many as crossbreeds/mongrels, that is fact !

Besides any decent breeder only breeds to further their breed...............if they all stopped, all we would be left with is mongrels .
maybe they just need to take a time out till all thats in rescue is mongels
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30-10-2007, 12:45 PM
My point is, that any good breeder in the Country wouldn't have a problem with doing this if they thought for one moment, that it would have any effect.

THE problem is that puppy farmers, who live off of breeding dogs, and BYBs whos choose to ignore cmmon sense, wouldn't do this, therefore there would still be an alarming rate of dogs going through rescues, in fact they would see a gap in the market and breed more, so it would have absolutely no effect, if breeders stopped breeding, would it ??

So who is to blame, as the original OP asked ............................... puppy farmers and BYBs.

I don't think people area aware exactly of how many puppy farmers and BYBs there are !!!
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30-10-2007, 12:47 PM
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Not in London, a survey carried out by 3 of the largest resuces show 2/3 rds of the dogs they were asked to help were pure breeds!! leaving only 1/3 rd crossbreeds and mongrels
OK,without splitting hairs, perhaps I should explain again .............. Reputably. ethically bred Purebreds -v- Puppy farmed purebreds !!!

Rescues are full of crossbreeds, mongrels and unethically bred dogs, as apposed to Ethically bred dogs from good breeders.
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30-10-2007, 01:16 PM
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maybe they just need to take a time out till all thats in rescue is mongels
I agree :smt001
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