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greatbarnet
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18-08-2014, 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by Jackie View Post
No, because if you come first second or third, you will qualify (as long as said show has CC`s for your breed)

If you get placed as above in the first class you have qualified for Crufts....
Right, OK, I think I understand that bit now. Also I notice from the Crufts site that coming 1st, 2nd or 3rd in Novice doesn't qualify you anyway.

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If you win the first class and are beaten i.e come second or third , forth and so on, you will not them be able to go in for the challenge ..... which would be best dog.
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Given his breed I would stick to junior,
That makes sense to me, I will follow that advice and only enter him for Junior, thanks. I've never been to a single breed show before so it is partly just being there and seeing all the dogs that will be fun (hopefully). If my boy does well that will be a bonus, although the rate his moult is going he is likely to be bald by then!

Many thanks, have learned a lot
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31-08-2014, 09:49 AM
Twice now at champ shows I have missed out on the challenge due to being beaten in the first class but winning the second. Having said that, I am of the mind that if the judge liked my dog enough, they will give me the first in the other class too. The second class is GC, plus I always do a stakes.

At an open show, I will enter the breed, AV if possible and a stakes. Though the last show I went to we were kept waiting for a very long time for the stakes, whereas at champ shows the stakes happen while some breeds are still being judged.
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31-08-2014, 12:48 PM
There is a big difference between Open and Champ shows these days, a possible exception being Breed Club Open shows. As mentioned before Junior can be a very strong class, which may contain CC or RCC winners. Novice is usually a lower standard as nobody stays in that class for long. For whatever reason the KCGC classes tend not to be well supported by established breeders - probably because most of them are only interested in training for the showring or specialist performance tests. (Gun work, Hound trailing, IPO etc.).
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31-08-2014, 12:57 PM
I've entered him for Junior now so we'll have to wait and see. I would be so proud if he qualified for Crufts (even though I probably wouldn't enter him there!) but I'm not expecting anything. It will be good experience for both of us though I hope, and a good day out.

I'd love to enter him for the obedience classes but he's a teenage hooligan at the moment so it really would be a bit pointless. Maybe in future we could go down that road as that definitely suits me more than showing.
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31-08-2014, 04:55 PM
Good luck
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