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17-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble 
Its a bit much blaming a government for a peak in unemployment figures that occured 3 years AFTER they left power...
the same thing looks almost certain to happen now?
Theres no overnight fix ( ask the conservative/socialist/CND/pro nuker Blair you cant asve the NHS in 24 hours )
You dont get rid of rot in a day, you have to cut away and cut back to clear it out. Were the conservatives to get in the next election, there may welll be a rise in unemployment but they wont be responsible - you cant possibly say that - oh no wait - they will be because it will be because of Thatcher back in the eighties....
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17-07-2008, 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Helena54
They didn't have unions in solicitor's offices, accountant's offices, etc. they only seemed to have them in very large factories in my day, why was that then????? Does that mean all smaller businesses who didn't have them or wouldn't entertain them were b*stards to work for then? Not in my day they weren't, I enjoyed working in all of them!
If I ever had gone into a large factory or somewhere, where I was forced to join a union I'd probably have left, coz like I say, why should I have jeopardised my OWN job which I might have been very happy doing, just because some other bod suddenly got unhappy about something I didn't agree with?? LIke I said, I don't do sheep, I do my own thing and I wouldn't have been happy sitting out in the road on a cold winter's day when I could have been slaving away in a nice warm office, just to satisfy somebody's gripe I didn't even know and above all something I might NOT have agreed with either?! It's all wrong to me, hence why I don't like unions. Each to their own.
You are lucky you weren't.
It's about social responsibility IMO....
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17-07-2008, 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Stormey
January 1982 the figure was 3,070,621 that represented 12.5 per cent of the working population.
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17-07-2008, 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
What if the boss doesn't listen H??? What if the boss treats people really badly? Then what?
Perhaps you have been fortunate enough never to have needed a union.
Unions ensure that people are treated fairly and that bosses don't become so money oriented that they forget about the rights of their workers.
They also ensure that the bosses don't put public safety at risk at times.
Yes they ensure that the public are not at risk, unless of course you happened to be a mini cab driver at the time of the strike, then you were fully entitled to be beaten to death as were members of the union who wanted their paypacket.
Union bosses definately dont put money first - they dont need to most of them are paid better than company executives while the union fee payers barely get by.
Those union leaders were fair over the recent enforced teachers walkout - tell me what proportion of union members voted to strike???????? please??
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17-07-2008, 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
One day H, you may have been the person with the gripe.
You are lucky you weren't.
It's about social responsibility IMO....
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17-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Stormey
Just like thatcher and major(an even bigger joke) were in power the 18yrs yet some sections of society expected them(labour) to sort the problems left out in no time at all.
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