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08-05-2011, 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear 
Also, where I lived, in the mountains, there was no supermarket to toddle off to get your frozen burgers etc. Convenience foods, etc etc.
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08-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
That's very interesting. Dogs of course are thousands of time more tuned in to "stuff" than we are, so it is reports like your's that would always make me question rather than my own squeamishness or thoughts of cruelty re the practice behind halal.
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08-05-2011, 11:23 PM
Also, where I lived, in the mountains, there was no supermarket to toddle off to get your frozen burgers etc. Convenience foods, etc etc.
Because a) I like meat *and b) nuts and pulses make you fart a lot!*
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No supermarket near where i am either - nearest one is 30 miles away
Eating peppermint before & after food eases flatuence discomfort & symptoms
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09-05-2011, 08:23 AM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
Actually the do NOT die a slow, painful death. I have been present at many HALAL slaughters and nothing could be further from the truth! Do you think that animals slaughtered in abbattoirs have a pain free death?
Do you think they are NEVER actually conscious when killed?
Have you ever been PRESENT when this happens?
I have, and I can assure you that many animals are NOT stunned sufficiently. Most are, but not all.
My understanding of halal is that the animals are killed by cutting their throats and allowing them to bleed to death - no merciful stunning first. If I am wrong, then I apologise.
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09-05-2011, 08:27 AM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
Because a) I like meat
and b) nuts and pulses make you fart a lot! 
I would like to be a vegetarian, and would be if I thought it was healthier. I happen to believe that if we are given teeth to eat different types of food, then that is what we should eat. I don't eat meat every day, as a grown adult female past reproductive age, I don't need to, but at least once or twice a month I eat meat because I think it is good for me.
But my diet is probably 90% veggie.
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09-05-2011, 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by wildmoor
the animals are not killed at the shop!
I haven't been for ages but on one day in particular yopu can hear the pigs squealing/screaming.
rune
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09-05-2011, 08:57 AM
Originally Posted by rune
There is a slaughterhouse just behind one of our local butchers where the meat is sold.
I haven't been for ages but on one day in particular yopu can hear the pigs squealing/screaming.
rune
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09-05-2011, 09:04 AM
and appreciate the meat that I am eating!
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09-05-2011, 09:05 AM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
My understanding of halal is that the animals are killed by cutting their throats and allowing them to bleed to death - no merciful stunning first. If I am wrong, then I apologise.
When we have slaughtered the turkeys for Christmas, even after there is no heartbeat and the head has been severed, the body continues to move, as the electrical nerve impulses are still active....
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