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08-05-2011, 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear 
Have you heard the recordings made of greens screaming as they are pulled out of the ground?
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08-05-2011, 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
That's very interesting. Dogs of course are thousands of time more tuned in to "stuff" than we are, so it is reports like your's that would always make me question rather than my own squeamishness or thoughts of cruelty re the practice behind halal.
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08-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
But you have no idea to what they object, they obviously do not have a problem eating the meat, so could it be the cleaning fluid they object to for example?
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08-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by wildmoor
Halal meat in supermarkets is labled as that and kept seperate from non halal so the halal meat doesnt get contaminated
Up until very recently this was not the case with some of the big supermarket chains. There was an investigation into it and it was discovered that 'ordinary' meat was in fact Halal meat - but there was no label saying so.
A lot of people protested over this as they said they had a right to know if anything they were eating had been blessed in the name of a religion - Islam, in this case.
Now I don't think it happens any more.
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08-05-2011, 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
Or possibly the fact that the animals have their throats cut and bleed to death with no anaesthetic?
How do you explain that? Why do they not object to the meat in their bowl but APPARENTLY the meat in the shop?
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08-05-2011, 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
Or possibly the fact that the animals have their throats cut and bleed to death with no anaesthetic?
Just to say that if Halal is the same as Kosher in this respect then the animal does NOT 'bleed to death'.
The animal is dead with the first and only cut to the throat.
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08-05-2011, 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by TabithaJ
Just to say that if Halal is the same as Kosher in this respect then the animal does NOT 'bleed to death'.
The animal is dead with the first and only cut to the throat.
Ah, but the truth is not so emotive and sensational as fiction.............
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08-05-2011, 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
Have you heard the recordings made of greens screaming as they are pulled out of the ground?
Originally Posted by smokeybear
Fortunately no, and if I did, I would ignore them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irMog...e_gdata_player
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08-05-2011, 10:18 PM
I am not naive enough not to realise that I have probably eaten kilos of meat that was bled before being stunned. I know exactly what happens in an abbatoir, and I would be very happy to pay more for my meat so that animals did not have to suffer. But I will not purposely buy halal meat, in fact just the opposite.
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