yer im sure if like farmers yer breedin for a worker and not for a pet and want to account for yer own breedin its fine, but could you imagine given that to someone who youve just sold a dog too as a pet.

pete it was for a dog he sold thats the way he gives them out its the details about gameness and badgers that sells them for him pricks think its great

I understand what you mean Minty

Hello Pete,
Iam a member of The Scottish Staffordshire bull terrier club commitee, and I am totally in favour of any legal means used to attempt to quantify a Staffords strength and agility. I would not judge as I firmly believe that no one can choose the best dog out of a line up, by the perameters used at a dog show.

housedog i just find it strange someone would be part of a club that holds and promotes kc shows dosent actually agree with them ,but if your a comitee member tryin to change it for what you beleive in then good for you.

If you ain't in it you can't change it, and I have no quarrel with the breed, just those who would lessen it's potency.

Who do you feel those people are housedog?

In reply to your question Lel, from the old forum on the Kennel Club topic I will have to go back 18yrs to one of the 3 litters I bred in 22yrs, out of this litter I kept a dog pup called Harry, what my own knowledge of dogs told me was that he was over boned from the head to the tail, I had only had Staffords for 3yrs at this time and people whom I thought knowledgeable about the breed insisted that he was pick of the litter with showing in mind, as my wife at the time enjoyed showing we kept Harry he attended 5 shows he was given 1st place at 4 shows and 2 seconds at the 1987 Scottish Champ Show. He was an impessive looking dog, but could not do anywhere near the amount of exercise that my other 3 could do. Harry was severely limited to the amount of exercise he could be given, I saw this every day and I began to question just how knowledgeable the Judges were who had awarded him 1st place, in my opinion not very. I have seen countless dogs identical to Harry over the years, and I am certain that their activity and agility are compromised, just as Harry's was.

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