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SarahJade
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24-10-2014, 11:45 AM
Lovemybull you would probably have had your dogs taken and destroyed and taken to court for fines and what not just for having pit bulls!
While out walking my dog along a road we had an encounter with a man who took his dog of it's lead as we walked past. It ran straight across the road and began to growl, bark and snap and my dog and me. It didn't make contact with either of us but we had to be on our toes to keep it at a distance. I was yelling at it, trying to control Cookie and yelling for the owner to grab the bloody thing.
Owner thought it was appropriate to yell at me, like I was the bad guy. I just didn't want my large staffy cross to rip this collies head off or to get hurt himself.
I contacted the dog warden for advice and he took all the details, I emailed him again every month or so for 6 months and nothing was ever done. I had the guys rough address and his car registration. Nothing, the last few emails weren't even replied to.
We saw him a few times, and he would always chuckle to himself. Eventually we moved, but not really because of that but it was good to get away from him.

I do think that anyone should be able to come to your front door (or have a buzzer or something) to contact you without being fearful or any loose dogs. I always put Cookie out of sight when someone comes to the door, but I also used to have him somewhere I could call if I felt threatened. We have fixed that by having a chain on the door, but Cookie can open the door if I need him.
We are having a massive fence put up around the garden but at the moment he goes out on a harness and extendable lead as we have lots of cats and some squirrels in the area. He would run of chasing either.
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NikitaJane
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13-12-2014, 12:50 PM
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I gather that this new law means that anyone who can claim to have been frightened by your dog can now take you to court and claim compensation
This was my first thought! Also such a grey area - what constitutes a 'scary dog' ?! This particularly hits home for me having Great Danes which I find is such a balancing act. Having had some from puppies and doing what I think of as extreme socializing (taking them everywhere at every opportunity to experience everything). This is extremely important with Danes (and probably most big dogs) as you cannot risk them being nervous/aggressive when they are fully grown (which has been an issue when I have had them from being adults).

Anyway, my point being that this makes owners of big dogs (or any dogs with 'dangerous' stigmas attached) feel very isolated, and reluctant to socialize them by having friends around, taking them for walks in public and now even exercising them on their own property. The issue here being that this only exacerbates the problem in that dogs can become nervous, protective, territorial..etc.

Just an issue I have found in my experiences
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13-12-2014, 01:14 PM
People who are deaf and/or hard or hearing NEED their dogs to bark when someone comes near to their door.

Nikita Jane - my small to medium size dog BARKS to let me know someone is coming - because if she did not not I would not know and anyone could just walk in.

She does not bark to frighten anyone, she barks because she needs to tell me that someone is coming near.

She is not territorial or unsocialised - she just knows that I am deaf and that she barks to let me know if someone is trying to get in.

IS THAT WRONG?
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13-12-2014, 01:39 PM
Dogs are going to behave how they want to behave. It is only through our domestication of them that they have got to this point. It is obviously also dependent on the owners needs/desires of the dog. Whereas some owners will teach a dog it is wrong to bark at company, in this case it is a desirable trait. I suppose the answer is the reason behind why your dog is barking. If the reason were that it felt frightened/threatened then the issue still is not the actual barking, but that the perception is that this could develop into a more aggressive (or 'dangerous' behaviour).

In my opinion, this behaviour is justified because your dog just wants to please their owner. There is no aggressive/territorial intent and so it would never progress into anything more aggressive.

I do think this only furthers the point that what constitutes 'dangerous'. This is a requirement that you have of your dog. Your dog isn't a threat to anyone. I do not think you or your dog are doing anything wrong. However, if (for example) the post man came to your and your dog started barking to let you know they were there, under new legislation could you face prosecution as your dog is 'scaring' the postman?? This seems very wrong to me..
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