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07-03-2006, 02:09 PM

adult bitch being nasty to puppy HELP

Hi haven't been on for a while so hi to all who remember me and hi to all the new people who have joined. I have a couple of problems as most of you will know i have a female Lhasa Apso who will be 2 years old soon we now have a Lhasa Apso male 16 weeks old, i understand my wee bitch is a bit jealous and put out of sorts a bit so how do i sort things out Kiara my bitch is very aggressive with her food when Kodi goes near and if he comes over to myself or my partner she growls at him he is quite afraid when she is nasty to him but its not all nasty they do play quite well too. I hope someone will come along and give me some of their experience.
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07-03-2006, 02:34 PM
ok well here goes can only advise you on what i would do .... I have one here who is a little food aggressive she is fed seperatly if she dosen't eat it as she likes to wind the others up then she goes without...as for playing I would play with them as much as possible and if she becomes rough or aggressive i would remind her you are in charge...
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07-03-2006, 02:41 PM
When we got our first pup one of my dogs hated it, he wouldn't let it come near him and we almost had to give it back. It took about 2 weeks to settle enough so it was managable!
Try feeding the dogs seperately, this is what we were told to do.
She's bound to be out of sorts and not happy if you are giving the pup attention. try to make sure you give her lots of attention first.
If they are playing nicely sometimes then that's great! Just watch the pup doesn't get over boisterous, they often don't know when to stop and that can upset the older dogs!
Hope this helps a bit! Good luck!
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07-03-2006, 02:45 PM
I had a similar experience to yours when I first got my boy Jasper. Midge, my bitch, was about 15 months old at the time. Midge bullied Jasper to the point that I actually rang the breeder who we bought Jasper from and asked him to take him back, I'm glad he didn't though! Midge would shake Jasper like a ragdoll, you could hear his teeth banging together! She was also nasty over food and us, as you describe with your dogs.

I think it's basically a pecking order thing. Midge knew that eventually Jasper would grow to be bigger and stronger than her, so she just thought she'd get the bullying in while she could! They get on fine now, and I think that the respect that Midge earned through picking on Jasper has kept her the boss, which is really the best way as what use is a bloke in charge anyway.

I also think it's really important to treat the dogs equally, and then the older dog will eventually realise that having another dog doesn't mean that they will miss out on anything!

I hope all goes well for you with your dogs, I'm sure that once they get into some kind of routine they will get on fine!
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07-03-2006, 03:02 PM
hi there,
i was in a similar situation to you except i have a 3.5 yr old dog and an 11 week old bitch pup. They play together but they also fight together. At first i was very concerned about them getting hurt - the dog can be clumsy and very powerful when he wants and can get carried away and forget himself. At the same time i was concerned that the bitch has needle sharp teeth and is already quite big.
I was advised to let them get on with it as the dog would teach the pup to respect the order of the pack and continue its socialisation. However i was also told to keep a watchful eye and when i think either of them is becoming too much for the other, i clap my hands say 'enough' very firmly and spray them both with water using a plant sprayer. This has worked very well and i am using the spray rarely now. I will of had the pup 3 weeks tomorrow. I think she is quite intelligent so she has cottoned on quick but it may take time for them to learn the when you say enough or whatever word you use then its time to calm down. If they still dont listen i separate them to different rooms for 5 mins cool down because i know they like to be together really, especially for the pup.
I hope you sort it out - i know it can be stressful and upsetting
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07-03-2006, 03:28 PM
Hi Nichola good to see you again!
You don't say how long you have had the new puppy?
This is what I would do..,
If there is a problem with food I would feed separately until the two are more settled with each other, I would also remove toys when the two are together to prevent squables over possession.
I would not single one out for attention when they are both together and would try to spend some individual time with both of them.
I would not shout at the bitch when she growls at the puppy, ignore it.
Unless I thought there was going to be a real fight I would not intervene but would leave them to sort it out between themselves...the adult bitch will assert herself and all should be fine .
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07-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Thank you to you all we only just got the pup the other day so i thought i'd better get some advice to help me sort the situation out, as i said they do play i really think its more a jealousy thing with Kiara so i have been spending some one to one time with them both the wee fellow does know when Kiara is unhappy and he does back away and im not changing any affection towards kiara so she does not feel left out, i think she will realise that having another dog around is'nt going to change the love care and affection the family have for her. so thankyou all for your advice. if i have anymore problems i know where to come.
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08-03-2006, 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by nichola
Thank you to you all we only just got the pup the other day so i thought i'd better get some advice to help me sort the situation out, as i said they do play i really think its more a jealousy thing with Kiara so i have been spending some one to one time with them both the wee fellow does know when Kiara is unhappy and he does back away and im not changing any affection towards kiara so she does not feel left out, i think she will realise that having another dog around is'nt going to change the love care and affection the family have for her. so thankyou all for your advice. if i have anymore problems i know where to come.
There you have it Nichola they need time to get used to each other
I know Kiara is spayed so you should have no problem there. Do they sleep seperately? I would give them each a towel or blanket to sleep on and keep switching these around daily so they get really used to each others scent.
I think in a very short time you will have a pair who get on really well together .
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08-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Hi Its quite normal for a dog to be possessive over its food - you can't blame them, and pups won't always see the signs or take notice of the warnings. For that reason I always feed any puppies or youngsters separate. Feed time is a very volatile time when tempers could flare and damage be done - accidental or otherwise.

Your older bitch may be feeling a bit jealous and its important to play with them both. Your older bitch has a right to assert her position and shouldn't be reprimanded for warning the pup and putting it in its place. The pup has got to learn its place and, other than meal times, they don't normally do any real harm.
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13-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Just want to tell everyone that my babies are getting on very very well now and i am really pleased so thanks to all for your advice.
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