Im not going to eat you.....but words fail me they really do.

I respect that you may be treading on eggshells with your wife etc., but really she is a grown woman and as much as I hear you say ''these dogs are her kids'' that's one of the first mistakes.
She needs to take control of things and realise that she will be alot more hurt, devastated and sick if she see these two have a fight and one kills the other.

People have given you advice and I agree all you seem to do is make excuses. Im sure you both do really know what you are up against otherwise you wouldn't of asked the advise in the first place, I have bitches living together here with 1 male, but if the bitches started fighting I would do what is best....rehome one.

If your loosing your property things will be alot more stressful than looking for a new home for one bitch I can assure you, and if you leave it till the last moment and can not find anywhere to live, with the right ground to keep these dogs, then you may be looking at having no other option than 'putting to sleep'

Im sorry if I sound harsh but do you really think showing your wife a video of dogs fighting will change her mind, I don't Im sure she will find more tears.....maybe you yourself need to take charge

I think in this case it's more like if you had two kids that were intent on knifing each other to death rather than just the usual sibling rivalry. You would have no choice but to seperate your kids if that happened.

I know it's desperately hard, especiall as she's been caring for both the girls for so long. I've only had my girl for less than a year and she's been on her red card most of that time due to barking when I'm out (seperation anxiety). I've been in such a state so many times - I've even cried in front of the neighbour because we'd had a bad couple of weeks and I'd decided I was rehoming her. I NEVER cry! It's going to rip your hearts out of your chests to let one of them go and I'm not going to pretend any different. Especially on top of losing your home and having to find new accommodation that will let you have dogs of any description. And your chances of renting somewhere as large and secure as your current home are not good.

It may feel to her very much like she's letting you "throw one away", but that's human emotion and projecting them onto the dogs who won't feel it that way. It's perfectly natural for you both to feel like you're letting them down if you "give up" on one of them. But in the dog's reality, they are living in a pressure cooker situation with stress all around them. At some point it's going to come to a head. How do you think your wife's going to feel if you end up in a small house and the inevitable happens? Better to lose one through rehoming her alive and well to a good home than have one of them dead and the way you'll feel about the one that's still alive after her killing the other dog.

Ye are right they need to be re homed.I don't know what I said to upset the two girl's.I have been making excuses and really know what has to be done.I've upset everyone I'd say and didn't mean to.Thank's I know it was stupid question.Forgive me. Trust me I do not support dog fighting.All I can say is thanks for all yer help.

Yes (sorry about the link didn't realise it wasn't allowed)

Interesting that in the other account the OP says they first started fighting THREE YEARS ago, then again 3 weeks ago.

Doesn't mention the earlier fighting when posting here?

I am just getting the impression that this OP wants to broadcast to one and all that they have a VERY vicious St. Bernard dog which might be available soon.

That - or it's an attention seeking wind up.

Iam not seeking attention.The earlier fighting 3 years ago they got on fine after.If I have upset everyone I can remove myself from the site just say so.Reading the question I realise it was the most stupid question that was ever asked.

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No because it is an absolute load of tosh ... seriously, I am not getting at you at all. I have had true wolf crosses for some 15 years now - my first wolfie boy was a mix of Siberian Husky, Alaskan Malamute and wolf. We now (coincidentally) have his son as a rescue ... Ben. We also have another rescue of the same ilk but much less wolfy ... Tai. Hal, our original wolf cross, was an absolute darling. The most socialised and friendly dog you could ever wish to meet. He was a true alpha male, and as such was not dog-aggressive, he would just duck and weave when attacked by other dogs. It is just the most appalling thing ever to say that wolf crosses, siberian huskies, mals etc. etc. cannot live together except with their own kind.

It is true that male Alaskan Malamutes can be rather DA with other males - are own Ben is very DA with large males, or can be. We are working through this with him using a muzzle and long lead and are making some progress.

As for true wolf crosses, they are certainly not any more aggressive with other dogs than any other dog. They tend to be aloof with people, but as far as their own kind go - dogs - they are just the same as any other dog.

Hi Sammie, I've been following this thread but haven't commented until now.
I am desperately sorry for you and your wife - you have an awful situation on your hands, but it can be remedied immediately. Re-home one NOW before you have a dead dog! If you both truly love these dogs you will do what is best for them and not you. If one or both are re-homed they have a chance of a happy stress-free life, which they certainly don't have at the moment. Please, please act on the advice you have been given here and stop procrastinating .

There are some excellent dog trainers in Ireland.

I have no idea who you have met, but certainly not everyone does a course in a classroom and thinks they are Cesar Milan

Where abouts are you in the country?

Agree with Abbie

I've not read all of the thread, but one thing sticks out for me, which is that the dogs are pretty much middle aged and have now started fighting. Apart from one fight a few years back and none since?

Have you had them both from pups? As if so, there must be some thing that has started this and if there is a trigger (eg a dog is in pain, which may not be obvious) it may possibly just possible be resolved BUT you almost certainly could not do this without realistic and experienced help.

Your first port of call should probably be the vet who can check to make sure none of the dogs are experiencing any pain which could be causing a problem. I'd also like to suggest blood tests but the problem is that these all cost money ... I know of dogs who have had thyroid problems for example, but they have only had issues with one particular dog and not the other dog in the household.

Generally speaking I totally agree with everyone that bitches do fight very hard and it can be almost impossible to sort things out. They have long memories. However if the problem is something like pain, (which pain meds might solve) or some trigger like a dog is resource guarding something then sometimes occasionally it can be worked out.

If it turns out that something like pain is an issue then you've have to think hard about whether the dogs can be managed and the pain managed, or whether it would still be better to rehome one ....

A hard decision - good luck with everything

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