As you seem to know that these wolves NEED to be culled and that it is the best thing for them, tell me how many wolves there are worldwide and tell me if you don't think that it's sad to kill any great number of them, do you mind seeing certain species disappear altogether so that we can spread our concrete a little further?

Wolfie = no we didn't have guns thousands of years ago I was just pointing out to Dawn that the mortgages and lives we live is far from what make us higher up the food chain than wolves.

To mention pods example of are we bothered if anthrax is killed? it being a virus and a form of a species if you like - honestly I don't give a **** about any similar example because all it boils down to is that it will be a shame to see such a beautifull animal disappear and that seeing as Alaska is one of the main habitats we have left - which are few and far between then it would be nice for something to be done that took a bit more brain work than simply killing them.

Hewey, the fact that the officials are wanting to cull more wolves in Alaska doesn't neccesary repressent the thoughts and feelings of the entire Alaskan population - just a thought.

Hell it don't matter, let people go ahead the way they do the next ice age will wipe us all out - people probably the first to go...

You know what I'm not wishy washy in my beliefs I just happen to have a hell of alot more time for and interest in animals, than I do people seeing as there are perhaps two maybe three people I honestly give a toss about in the entire world.

So some people might think people / themselves and their own needs are more important but I can honestly say I don't...So don't take my opinions as some childish ideal...I'm not saying save animals like wolves without thought of it being at your own expense - I'm saying I don't care about your expense and think more people should enjoy the experiance of hunting without a weapon / playing in traffic - what ever tickles your fancy. If I had to save anyone here or the wolf, most all of you would come last - ya really.

Dawn, your obviously just more of a people person than I am although I do think I do such a great job at showing how much I like people

Out of interest Dawn, we are predators ourselves and you say every predators numbers need controlling yet humans have let themselves spiral out of control so the sentiment is somewhat hypocritical.

Like Gnasher I'm not anti hunting - if you can call what people in the UK do 'hunting'

Because there are some things in life that are just plain wrong. It is wrong to murder another animal - whether that animal be our own species, or another - for financial gain or merely for pleasure, for sport.

On certain issues there are only ever two sides - right and wrong. Many issues are more iffy - for instance, you could call me a hypocrit for eating meat. I could lie to you and say I only eat farmed meat, in other words an animal who is not taken from the wild, but is "farmed" by us and eaten by us, in other words, this IS a case where I am playing God. However, I do occasionally eat wild meat, so yes, I am less than squeaky clean in that arena. But we are not talking about meat eating, we are talking about the killing for fun or for gain of another very similar species to ourselves - we live in packs, and have alpha males, alpha females and omegas just like they do, we are a social species and so are they, and we owe so much to the wolf apart from anything else. The partnership between wolf and man goes back thousands of years, and our fortunes - both wolf and man - are so tightly intertwined, it is difficult to say how one would have fared without the other.

This is why I say you are wrong and I am right. Sorry if you don't like it put that blunt, but I can't say it any other way.

Because there are some things in life that are just plain wrong. It is wrong to murder another animal - whether that animal be our own species, or another - for financial gain or merely for pleasure, for sport.

I do not agree with TAME Wolves which should be WILD animals NOT pets, something you appear to think is ok,

I agree that wild animals should be just that.

But I thought Gnasher said she loved them whether tame or wild - not sure that meant wanting them to be tame? When do you get a 'tame' wolf anyway? I've done the walking with ambassador/rescue wolves thing but they weren't tame - there was no licking etc., they were more tolerant of us and they weren't walked like a pet dog, rather they led the way.

Oh thank you Lucky Star, I was confused by the accusation that I approved of tame wolves, I was sure I wouldn't have said that but couldn't be bothered to wade back through the posts.

I've done the walking with wolves thing too - wasn't sure I liked them on those long heavy chains, seemed totally over the top to me. We talked to the staff after everyone had gone, and sat quietly with one of the female wolves whilst we carried on our conversation, she was just sitting there unfettered just like a normal dog and that was a magic moment.