Azz, do you really think puppy farmers will stop if MT's stop taking away some of their excess stock?

So the dogs deserve a shot at life---they exist. Do you think it is wrong that rescues then take them and give them that chance?

rune

Yes - I think it is wrong. Because they (whether unwittingly or otherwise) add to and help perpetuate the suffering - by making things 'easy' for PFs to continue.

If they refuse to take ex-breeders from known puppy farmers, they start to make things more difficult for them.

Perhaps we need a Rescue Dogs Exposed program to help them see why it's a problem

There are loads more poundies that are PTS every week, why not actively seek to 'rescue' them first - instead of helping puppy farmers get rid of unwanted/used stock - let them deal with their own problem, they certainly have enough money to.

Not just if MTs do - but all other rescue organisations too - then it will start to make a difference.

So you, as the owner of a dog lovers forum think that used dogs from puppy farmers, don't deserve help.

rune

Surely, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't argument.

Rescues taking on 'no longer required' breeding bitches know that they are making room for the replacement and that eventually that replacement will need to be replaced.

The argument of refusing to take the ex-breeding stock making life more difficult for the puppy farmer sounds simple, but I doubt very much that it would make much difference to them to be honest how their dogs are disposed of so whether or not this stock is taken off their hands and rehomed or not, they will continue their horrendous trade.

Therefore, a rescue centre taking on ex-breeding stock is leaving itself open to accusations of aiding the trade. A rescue centre who doesn't, has to live with its conscience knowing that there are dogs out there that will be killed when they know they can find homes for them.

As said, damned if they do, damned if they don't

Splitting hairs!

Where have I said that they don't deserve help?

(Please also note DG point 3 http://www.dogsey.com/discussion-guidelines.htm)

Yep dogs are Dying in Pounds every day, this is where a lot more would end up from PFs if it was not for rescues like MTs, do we really want that...

These ex breeders are not nameless statistics - they are living breathing sentient creatures that deserve better.

OK fair enough. I dont aggree but I understand your view there