I wouldn't dream of breeding from anything that didn't have a good temperament, and good health, and looked as it should.

I would hope, if I were buying a puppy in, I would have researched enough to ensure that the breeder felt exactly the same

It has to be all three for me too

Breeding carriers and breeding merles is entirely different, although both of course wrong, no good, responsible breeder would do such a thing. People who breed merle to merle clearly have no ethics, people who health test will have decent ethics to be testing in the first place.

My point is - no one would go to the effort of testing to look for carriers and then breed them together anyway resulting in blind puppies (eg PRA Cord-1). No one in their right mind would breed affected puppies on purpose, I really can't understand the reasoning behind such a belief? If you've got the ethics to test in the first place do people seriously believe those ethics would then go out of the window when looking for a stud dog? Such a belief just doesn't make any sense to me! The truth is I think you'll believe anything if it fits your belief that all breeders are evil!

Breeding carrier to carrier, will result in only a 25% chance of clear puppies..Thats far to low, the other 25% being affected and 50% going on to be carriers. NO 'decent' breeder would risk it. I to am shocked to see the suggestion.

Doesnt that depend on the disease?

I spose it could be different for different things - cant say I have looked into others, most eye diseases are as above.

Yes thats true, VWd is inherited the same, not sure about all though.

I think it depends on if gene that courses the condition is recessive or not.

Both DNA tests for SBT are recessive gene.

PHPV a different eye condition to HC, mode of inheritance is not yet known. I think we are just a few blood samples short of the AHT starting their research hopefully a DNA test won't be far behind.

I believe research has started and blood samples being sought for HD in Labs

Family life is simply a term, but yes, I would expect ALL breeds to fit into "your interpretation" of family life, be that working or pet.

Whats the point of getting a dog be it simply for a pet, to work , or play and its temperament is "off"

the dog has to be amenable for what ever its purpose is!

Where exactly did I say all breeders are evil??
OK I take your point that someone wouldnt care enough to health test and then put 2 carriors together
However - as I stated with merles, there ARE breeders who are putting looks way above health by breeding merle to merle


OK so I will put things a different way
Instead of looking at major faults
As everyone says no dog is perfect - you are striving to better your breed all the time supossedly
So as no dog is perfect
If the choices were between a dog who had a minor fault in looks (that did not prevent him showing)
one dog had a stlight temprament issue (that you had been able to train for so they were perfectly able to be shown and did well)
and one had a minor health issue - something genetic that could be passed on but wasnt life limiting

Which dog would you pick to breed from? - cos lets face it no dog is 100% perfect

Exactly, so one has to breed from what one considers the best that adheres to breed standard, and that includes health.