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02-06-2011, 09:42 PM
If it's a well socialised dog it's a great idea, if you don't fancy the puppy stage. As long as you know how the dog has been raised and are happy with it, I see no problem.
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02-06-2011, 09:46 PM
THe first one was a dog that was run on to show, but his legs got too long so my mother got him at 8 months.

I loved him, too big for breed standard and a lovely caramel colour he was very much a male he would have been a good show dog (if he had met the standard) because of his "look at me" attitude.

He used to mark a lot indoors.

TBF my mother is crap with dogs and lets them get away with murder so a lot of his behaviour could have been stopped.

When he died at 16 she got another one, an ex stud dog aged about 7, he had rotten teeth already, and was very bossy.

When I visited I used to take him out wth my two Weims and he was not a problem (probably knackered trying to keep up) but my mother could never let him off the lead.

He lived until 17, had a lot of gums..........

Would things have been any different had she had them from a pup? Probably not in all honesty.
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02-06-2011, 10:02 PM
Please excuse my ignorance - what does 'run on' actually mean.....?
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02-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Some breeders run on two dogs to see which develops into the one with the most show potential.

Ie they keep them up to say 6 months before deciding on which to keep.
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02-06-2011, 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear View Post
Some breeders run on two dogs to see which develops into the one with the most show potential.

Ie they keep them up to say 6 months before deciding on which to keep.

Ah, I see - many thanks SB!

So then the dog that displays 'less' show promise, has to be rehomed?

Do some breeders keep them both, though?

Very interesting thread!
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03-06-2011, 07:41 AM
I have no problem with dogs beign "run on" , why not ask those on here who have been the beneficiary of such dogs.

I know of people who have had dogs from breeders who have been run on, or retired , it can work for both parties, some people dont want a little puppy and are happy to take on the older dog of their given breed choice from a breeder.

In fact some peopel go back to a breeder time and time again for a retired /run on dog.

Some of these dogs will have been raised in the home or a kennel, but with work and dedication either can work, and does for most .
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03-06-2011, 07:58 AM
Originally Posted by TabithaJ View Post
Ah, I see - many thanks SB!

So then the dog that displays 'less' show promise, has to be rehomed?

Do some breeders keep them both, though?

Very interesting thread!

Not necessarily, sometimes a breeder will run on a couple of dogs for someone else!

Sometimes a dog and a bitch are run on.

Sometimes if this happens the breeder does keep both, a lot depends on the set up, how many dogs they already have etc.
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03-06-2011, 08:04 AM
My Henry had been "run on" by his breeder

I went to her as I knew she very often had slightly older dogs that she had on a back burner, we didn't want a baby puppy and I wanted something of show quality so needed to make sure teeth and testicles were ok.

Penny was running on Henry, he hadn't been shown, (she very often brings dogs out at 3 years + and makes them up immediately), she said she had been holding onto him as he was too good just to be a pet, although he makes a wonderful pet, and our home sounded ideal for him

If I am in the position to have another, I would probably go through the same route as I would want another that could come to the shows with us, it would be unfair if one had to stay at home...I couldn't do that so would then feel I had to stop showing Hen.

The good thing about doing it this way is you can see more or less the finished article, Hen was 13 months old when we got him but I could see he had everything I was looking for. This obviously wouldn't come into it if you are not looking to do a hobby with the dog, but I would definately do it again
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03-06-2011, 08:18 AM
i dont see a problem with breeders running dogs on. i dont know if i would get a dog that had been run on. i like having my dogs from pups, and like watching them grow but then again i see why people do it, and the breeder i buy from often runs dogs on a bit, to see which she prefers, or she rehomes some of the older ones, that have either not met standard, or turned out didnt like showing. her arguement is why should she keep a dog there, being left out (i.e show days) when it could be in a lovely pet home with two owners around all day completely doting on that dog? and i agree with her.
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03-06-2011, 09:19 AM
Originally Posted by smokeybear View Post
Some breeders run on two dogs to see which develops into the one with the most show potential.

Ie they keep them up to say 6 months before deciding on which to keep.
Or work potential too. We tend to keep either two or three collie pups from a litter and keep them all until they are 12 months - 2 years and get them started on sheep and see which has the most promise for the type of work we have here. The less promising will then be sold to other shepherds/farmers perhaps with less demanding terrain to work, or to a trials home if that dog shows the aptitude for trials etc.

However, for the purposes of this thread, we were discussing a GSD show breeder who runs on two or three pups to see how has the most show potential. I will always have one or two GSDs and, with Flame now nearly ten years old , it is just something to consider, but I am certainly in no rush. It is interesting to consider the various options. I do love having my dogs from pups, but tend to be impatient to start doing something with them, so an older dog could really work for me. Of course there are plenty of rescue dogs to consider too, but with small children in the house, as well as all the other dogs and livestock to think about, I think I would prefer the run on option.

Also, as I said earlier, I live in the middle of nowhere and having many demands on my time, it would be great for me to buy a dog knowing some basic training and, more importantly, extensive socialisation had already been put in place.
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