No I am not, same RANGE does not equal same PRICE!

If it's Wafcol putting the food on offer, they are probably trying to get rid of it!!!

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Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
SB - Wafcol is most definitely NOT a cheap kibble, I don't know where you get/got that from. I actually find that remark a bit insulting to think that I would feed my sensitive / dietary intolerant dog/s a cheap food. Wafcol has always been a specialist dietary food and as such we have paid for it. The last time I bought the big bag and only because they didn't have the smaller bags, it was approx £52. That is NOT what I would term a cheap kibble

As for swopping kibble for raw at short notice, I think you have been remarkably lucky with your dogs, not to have had problems - I envy that, it is something I could never do just swopping one food for the other, I would have a very ill dog.

I am familar with that forum being a member of it - didnt think we were allowed to name other forums here on dogsey?

If that is the case why has Harvey's problems not cleared? OR substantially improved? As a last ditch resort and for the want to try something totally different and new - it was recommended I try Orijen! There has not been a big deal of difference to the dog and I hesitate to say this, he does not like it very much, and I find to fill him up I am having to feed a lot more of it so bang goes the theory that you feed less on a better quality food

...and what is the point in adding the part about anyone not understanding why his issues have not cleared - there are only 5 of us contributing to this thread so not a very logical remark to make

Nevertheless you cannot say it is fact that it is good or bad breeding stock that is contributing to dogs with allergies or food intolerances in these instances

I really dont know what has gone wrong with Wafcol however I now suspect the protein levels may have something to do with it

Orijen 36% protein and a very high protein level

Wafcol was 26% protein - still in the highish region -although old recipe suited

Wainwrights 18%

Wainwrights did suit Harvey and he had no issues

I now just need to find a food no higher than 20% and preferably 18%.

It was my fault for not checking the protein levels on Orijen before I ordered it, you just cant be too careful

My brother in laws badgers and foxes are going to be very well fed this autumn/winter between Wafcol and Orijen

I have never stated that itwas a fact in these instances and so as I have never stated that it was.

However, strictly speaking ICAN say anything I like. As can anyone, whether it is accurate or not

I have never stated that itwas a fact in these instances and so as I have never stated that it was that remark is superfluous.

However, strictly speaking I CAN say anything I like. As can anyone, whether it is accurate or not

That would be interesting, if you coudl find a food with EXACTLY the same ingredients with a lower protein level you could then do a comparison.

As there can be no foods with EXACTLY the same ingredients with a lower protein level you will still be speculating.

Have there been any studies to demonstrate that high protein per se causes itchiness and redness etc?

Well I feel quite exhausted reading this runaway thread.
Very entertaining but I am relieved that my dog has a much nicer even temperament as I wouldn't see her being acceptable if she was such a spoiler. Nod Nod: oh and I must not forget the famous

Can we get back to the important bit.

Dog food is a minefield and one size does not fit all.
Tests may get you quicker results but that depends on funds available.
Trial and error must be a pain but it is an alternative.
We have all heard of dogs that tolerate the cheapest kibbles and others who react badly to so called superior kibbles.
I hope VB with your efforts you manage to nail the issues with Harvey.
I have been fortunate over the years in feeding kibble cooked and raw foods to my dogs and haven't had any major problems.
I have formed and changed views along the way depending on my personal experiences.
As we all know no one knows better than oneself what one's dogs react to.
Good luck to you with any problems and I hope it doesn't take long to sort them out.

I doubt i shall be doing very much today, we are not having the heatwave here, rather persistent downpour which started just after tea last night and the roads will no doubt be flooded, of course you could say that is just speculation on my part