Do you mean you cannot comprehend the appeal of a badly trained PP dog (ie the numpties comment) or of any PP dog, however well trained?

I can only speak for myself, but I would like to own a well bred, well trained PP dog (and would only have one from A1K9 as they are the leaders in the world of PP dogs in the UK and have an excellent record and reputation) for a few reasons. One being that I would love a highly trained dog but am a lazy trainer myself. I would much rather be walking/hiking and exploring than training. Don't get me wrong, my dogs are trained and well behaved but I don't have the drive and/or knowledge to teach them to top level. However, if I were to ever own a highly trained dog, I would appreciate the need to continue the training and keep up the training they have already had.

I also live and walk in isolated and remote places and it would be a nice feeling to know that my dog would be able to protect me if the need arose. I know my current dogs are a deterrent to any would be wrongdoer but I couldn't guarantee their reaction if I were to be attacked.

Also, A1K9 socialise their dogs much more extensively than your average pet dog, and they are tested with all number of situations - some of which I just don't have access to - so that would be a huge bonus for me too.

However, unless I win the lottery I know I would never be able to justify spending thousands of pounds on a dog - no matter how highly trained.

My father was a dog handler for the royal military police some years ago now; army dogs were never rehomed in those days, they were always pts, they were simply not to be trusted because of the training methods. They also wouldn't try and find an escaped dog, if it got into thick cover, because they could easily become the target of an attack. You didn't go into the kennel of a dog that wasn't yours either, for the same reason. The only people who, for whatever reason, could move from dog to dog without problems, were the army vets.

I didn't say it should be banned

I know - I was replying to your post and bearing in mind the OP.

Interesting article by Suzanne Clothier which is relevant to this thread...

It's not the dog,it's the owners that are at fault.I have friends in shtz. clubs.One trains dogs for the local sheriffs.They are good and they KEEP UP the training. They love the competetion and love to help others having problems with their dogs.
One has travelled the country and gone to Canada to learn their methods.These are responsible people. Unfortunately not all are.They are committed to what they do-not all are.The dogs pay the price.

Show me the post and I will retract my previous statement of I have never attended a training day in Ireland.

For some applications, GOOD temperament is not necessary, eg for non compliance dogs.

It is rare for the Army to use Labradors for GP work in any case, there are plenty of other more suitable breeds. Few labradors can fulfil the duties of a GP dog well, the exceptions do prove the rule.

NOTHING in life is without risk. Correct training MINIMISES risk, that is why we teach people to drive and train them to operate machinery etc.

I do not remember as I did NOT attend ANY seminar in Ireland, so if you wish to challenge the veracity of my statements and my honesty, go ahead.

Which seminar, what location in Ireland, which trainer, what date?

I have a list of ALL seminars I have ever attended and Ireland is conspicuous by its absence, as is Scotland.

I am really getting a little tired of these accusations, I do not care WHAT list you have, but I have NEVER attended a dog training seminar in IRELAND.

For heaven's sake, why would I LIE?!

So to clarify I have NEVER been to a seminar in Ireland, the seminar I attended was in the UK with Bart Bellon, at an equestrian centre near Solihull.

Unless, of course, Abbie YOU know different