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02-04-2013, 04:12 AM

Taming dog found in the woods (update @post 97)

I will like to introduce myself. I have joined this sight in hopes of getting information and tips on how to tame and socialize a dog I found starving in the woods. He might be semi feral. Any advise will be deeply appreciated.
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02-04-2013, 06:06 AM

I am afraid I cannot help you but I am sure someone who can give you advice will be around soon. In the meantime,

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02-04-2013, 06:26 AM
Hello and a warm welcome Only time and patience will win out I am afraid. When he sees that food is something that will always be served up on time and he doesn't have to gobble it down immediately he will come round. Also could take a lot of patience with his toileting and walking on the lead as well but all will come in time provided you have the patience. Good luck.


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02-04-2013, 10:00 AM
You could try hand feeding some of his food as well - food always helps bridge gaps. He may have been dumped at some time & had to survive on his own & will fear rejection again - so will be naturally wary. Lots of patience & TLC needed. Just take baby steps & if it looks like its going wrong, back off & go back to where you were before.
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02-04-2013, 10:57 AM
Welcome. Sorry can't help but Good Luck.
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02-04-2013, 12:36 PM
First off, welcome to Dogsey and second off, kudos to you for helping this dog.

If you can give more information about the dog you found it will be easier for us to give some suggestions and tips.

What condition is the dog in physically? Did the dog approach you in the woods? Was it easy to get a hold of the dog to bring home? What behaviors is the dog showing; fear, wariness, resource guarding, etc? Does he let you touch him? What type of dog do you think he is? Did he have a collar on? What schedule do you have him on now? How long ago did you find the dog? Have you tried to see if anyone has lost a dog?

Anything and everything you can think off will help us to help you.

You are a very good hearted person to have taken this dog in.
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02-04-2013, 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Timber- View Post
First off, welcome to Dogsey and second off, kudos to you for helping this dog.

If you can give more information about the dog you found it will be easier for us to give some suggestions and tips.

What condition is the dog in physically? Did the dog approach you in the woods? Was it easy to get a hold of the dog to bring home? What behaviors is the dog showing; fear, wariness, resource guarding, etc? Does he let you touch him? What type of dog do you think he is? Did he have a collar on? What schedule do you have him on now? How long ago did you find the dog? Have you tried to see if anyone has lost a dog?

Anything and everything you can think off will help us to help you.

You are a very good hearted person to have taken this dog in.
To all that responded thank you. This dog was starving when I found him. You can see every vertebra , his ribs and hip bones protruding. Appears to be some kind of hound dog. No collar on and was sleeping in the cold winter days and nights for the last month at least in the woods. He ate the neighbors tennis ball in the yard in half. It took awhile , but he will come in the garage and eat . But I must stay far back. The first time I brought food out for him he was sleeping in my neighbors leaves along his house ,he got up and ran in the woods. I have surveillance cameras and could see that the only one who ate his food was a opossum and a raccoon.Kept trying and finally he came and ate from the bowl ,as long as I kept my distance. Any strange sound , like a mail truck ,or any other person that comes along he runs out in the woods. He now allows me to pet him , but no one else can get near him. I checked him for fleas , and brought in a stool sample for worm testing Had fleas and tapeworm. Got medication for both. He is now putting on some weight , after feeding him 4 times a day puppy chow with lamb or hamburger.I cannot confine him yet and I don't want to have problems with the neighbors.He remains most of the time on our property. He is afraid of my little dog who is a sheltie mix and does not even bark at him. When he sees my dog he goes under the deck, as he is hiding from him.This dog is at least 3 times larger than my dog. I am afraid that if I try to fence him in he will get frantic. He is fearful of everything. Help!
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02-04-2013, 03:47 PM
Originally Posted by Malka View Post

I am afraid I cannot help you but I am sure someone who can give you advice will be around soon. In the meantime,

Thank you, for at least checking on what I had to say. Yes you are right .
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02-04-2013, 04:36 PM
What you are doing sounds right. He finally trusts you enough to enter the garage to eat, no matter if you have to stand far off and the fact that he's eating knowing you're there is also a good sign.

I would keep doing what you're doing, food is a great way to earn trust since it's necessary for the dogs survival. Eventually you can stand one step closer and closer until the gap gets smaller and smaller (within reason). Take your time, if you push things too fast he may regress and have to start all over again.

I'm not sure if you're working or not or how much time you have available but maybe you can set up a chair close by and simply read a book and hang out not engaging directly with him and do this on a schedule; at the same time everyday. Even if he's farther away from you, hopefully he'll get closer and closer and stay close for longer periods of time especially since you will be behaving in a non-threatening and direct manner around him. Throw high value food like pieces of meat or dehydrated liver in his direction (not right at him as to not startle the dog). He will eventually tie your presence to getting food on a schedule and will stick around longer. This will also build his trust in you and he will choose to stay with you longer. That's the key, everything has to be on his terms. Trust is not an easy to thing to accomplish with a dog that's been fending on his own for so long.

You can maybe also play very soft music in the garage, soft enough that he won't notice it too much to eventually desensitize him to different noises. Bringing up the volume very very slowly over time.

Would it be possible to set up a cozy spot for him at one of the corners of the garage? Maybe put out one of those large plastic crates and make it feel as cave like as possible with lots of bedding and maybe even some leaves from outside so it smells like the woods or anything you can think of to make it remind the dog of the outdoors. Also keep fresh water for him in his area (you're probably already doing this though). Once he realizes that you are providing basic living conditions it may entice him to stick around and build even more trust.

Since he's obviously on his own and not part of a pack, that probably explains why he's so scared of your dog even though he's much bigger.

Hope this helps at least a little bit.

All the best. Keep us posted I am very interested to see how everything pans out.
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02-04-2013, 06:04 PM
Hi morningglory

I find what you are doing for this dog so very moving.

I don't have any experience of what you are talking about but it seems intuitively what you are already doing and adding in what Timber suggests is right.

I too would be extremely in hearing how you get along.

Sandy



Originally Posted by Timber- View Post
What you are doing sounds right. He finally trusts you enough to enter the garage to eat, no matter if you have to stand far off and the fact that he's eating knowing you're there is also a good sign.

I would keep doing what you're doing, food is a great way to earn trust since it's necessary for the dogs survival. Eventually you can stand one step closer and closer until the gap gets smaller and smaller (within reason). Take your time, if you push things too fast he may regress and have to start all over again.

I'm not sure if you're working or not or how much time you have available but maybe you can set up a chair close by and simply read a book and hang out not engaging directly with him and do this on a schedule; at the same time everyday. Even if he's farther away from you, hopefully he'll get closer and closer and stay close for longer periods of time especially since you will be behaving in a non-threatening and direct manner around him. Throw high value food like pieces of meat or dehydrated liver in his direction (not right at him as to not startle the dog). He will eventually tie your presence to getting food on a schedule and will stick around longer. This will also build his trust in you and he will choose to stay with you longer. That's the key, everything has to be on his terms. Trust is not an easy to thing to accomplish with a dog that's been fending on his own for so long.

You can maybe also play very soft music in the garage, soft enough that he won't notice it too much to eventually desensitize him to different noises. Bringing up the volume very very slowly over time.

Would it be possible to set up a cozy spot for him at one of the corners of the garage? Maybe put out one of those large plastic crates and make it feel as cave like as possible with lots of bedding and maybe even some leaves from outside so it smells like the woods or anything you can think of to make it remind the dog of the outdoors. Also keep fresh water for him in his area (you're probably already doing this though). Once he realizes that you are providing basic living conditions it may entice him to stick around and build even more trust.

Since he's obviously on his own and not part of a pack, that probably explains why he's so scared of your dog even though he's much bigger.

Hope this helps at least a little bit.

All the best. Keep us posted I am very interested to see how everything pans out.
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