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17-12-2010, 06:36 PM
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I would also say (probably a little controversially) if your dog has a very stressful walk...and has lunged a lot or had dogs charge, his adrenalin and stress levels are going to be raised for the rest of the day, if not into the next day (as are yours). If that's happened I wouldn't take him out for another walk that day...I would work with him in the house/garden and not do the same walk the following day, just to allow him to calm down.
I do agree with this. Walk him when you tell yourself you KNOW your going out for a good walk, you are calm, and you have thought ahead how you will react/train/do if situations arise. This way you arent as stressed and the dog dosn't get so stressed. This leaves more chance of a positive outcome for all and repeating the positives is what you want.

I think perhaps you should try reading some Karen Pryor books as those will be helpful to you and I think claire&daisy may have recomendations that would be helpful?

Oh and Turrid Rugas, you can actually google/youtube and find videos etc...books too.
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17-12-2010, 06:50 PM
RAMBLE - thank you your comments make a lot of sense. I will look for a harness with a front attachment. And to answer a question - I do think he's lunging out of sheer excitement. He LOVES other dogs - when off leash he can't wait to bounce over and play and he has never shown the slightest bit of aggression, not even when another dog has tried to hump him etc
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17-12-2010, 06:51 PM
THANKS DOBERMANN, I will look out for her, I recognise the name actually...
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17-12-2010, 06:51 PM
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I do agree with this. Walk him when you tell yourself you KNOW your going out for a good walk, you are calm, and you have thought ahead how you will react/train/do if situations arise. This way you arent as stressed and the dog dosn't get so stressed. This leaves more chance of a positive outcome for all and repeating the positives is what you want.

I think perhaps you should try reading some Karen Pryor books as those will be helpful to you and I think claire&daisy may have recomendations that would be helpful?

Oh and Turrid Rugas, you can actually google/youtube and find videos etc...books too.
Yep, a Turid Rugaas seminar helped me to udnerstand Tango and to help her
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17-12-2010, 06:54 PM
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RAMBLE - thank you your comments make a lot of sense. I will look for a harness with a front attachment. And to answer a question - I do think he's lunging out of sheer excitement. He LOVES other dogs - when off leash he can't wait to bounce over and play and he has never shown the slightest bit of aggression, not even when another dog has tried to hump him etc
no probs...I feel you pain (and arm ache ) and of course, frustration.
It sounds like he was never socialised properly as a pup then? Did the rescue have any history on him?

My girl is also VERY excited by some dogs...and not quite as excited by others (she wants to floor the others!) Not easy. He problems are also exacerbated by severe arthritis in her shoulder joint, so bouncing around is not an option

Is his recall good from other dogs?
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17-12-2010, 06:56 PM
http://www.mekuti.co.uk/harness_shop.htm
I haven't used the above but people recommend it...do you have a double ended lead? Mekuti do one...and I also have one from the people who make the fleece harnesses.
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17-12-2010, 07:23 PM
I know loads of people who swear by a Dogmatic and Iv seen the difference its made to them, but I have a harness on mine where I can clip the lead on a ring at the front (in the centre of the chest area) so if pulling you can guide them round far easier and later on able to hold them by the 'handle' which means they cant lunge the same and it made things a lot easier if he decided to 'dive' to the end of the lead. The double ended training leads are great too.

I do think he's lunging out of sheer excitement. He LOVES other dogs - when off leash he can't wait to bounce over and play and he has never shown the slightest bit of aggression, not even when another dog has tried to hump him etc
Thats how mine was as a youngster and I do think the front attachment harness and a soft training lead will help (going for fabric instead of flat nylon or leather means it wont hurt your hands when he pulls either, helping empower you a bit)
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17-12-2010, 07:26 PM
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I know loads of people who swear by a Dogmatic and Iv seen the difference its made to them, but I have a harness on mine where I can clip the lead on a ring at the front (in the centre of the chest area) so if pulling you can guide them round far easier and later on able to hold them by the 'handle' which means they cant lunge the same and it made things a lot easier if he decided to 'dive' to the end of the lead. The double ended training leads are great too.
I woldn't be without my double ended lead.. I walk Tango on a harness and have the lead clipped on her back most of the time now as I like her to have the freedom to sniff and wander when we are out, but if it is a narrow area where there may be other dogs...then I pop the other end of the lead on the front, or on her collar, so she is doubly attached and on a shorter lead. Makes me feel safer so her too
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17-12-2010, 07:28 PM
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http://www.mekuti.co.uk/harness_shop.htm
I haven't used the above but people recommend it...do you have a double ended lead? Mekuti do one...and I also have one from the people who make the fleece harnesses.
I have one, and it really does help to prevent lunging. The lead clips right around the chest which makes it very difficult for the dog to get his front legs more than an inch or two off the ground. My dog is also less reactive in his Mekuti than when wearing a headcollar, as I think he feels more able to defend himself if necessary, less constrained.

There was also the very strong possibility that the headcollar I'd been using was hurting his neck and face when lunging - his lunges were often accompanied by a lot of twisting and leaping around on two legs.
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17-12-2010, 07:36 PM
http://www.companyofanimals.co.uk/pr...-training-lead

Thats the training lead that I like as its soft on your hands, can roll up smaller, also washable....

I cant find his harness online (if only I could remember the brand...) if I do i will post it.

I also introduced clicker training at quiet times and got him on a toy, sounds like yours may benefit from having a special toy and lots of play with you. (eventually making you more exciting than all the dogs)

I do think age has a lot to do with this too, stick at it and youll both get there in the end!
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