The vet didn’t do a skin scrape (which surprised me coz she doesn’t know for definite it is a mite), the ear drops look to be working a bit, his ears look a wee bit better but he still scratches at them. he is a wee star when he gets his drops though.

I know mixed messages isn’t his fault, but I still expect him to do as he is told. I told him to get off my bed, and he did but when I told him to get off their bed he didn’t. I understand he might not know which bed he is allowed on, but everytime he goes on their bed he gets told to get off and usually does it. he knows ‘down’.

I didn’t punish him until he bit me though, and im sorry but he needed to go in his crate for both our safety. It was the safest way to let him calm down, and I did not want to risk getting bitten again.

I know I should have used treats, but it was late and I was tired so I just wasn’t thinking. His recall in the house is usually great though, he comes straight away (its just one walks he goes temporarily deaf). Thanks for the link, Airdrie isn’t far from him so will have a wee look.

I don’t understand why he sees it as his bed though, he always get told to get off as soon as he goes on it, I would expect him to see my bed as his, if anything, and yet he got off mine straight away…

he is, he is getting ear drops and stronghold, which is 3 wee pipettes that have to be applied to the bottom of his neck, between the shoulders every 2 weeks.

His left eye is looking better but the right eye is looking about the same… I was surprised she didn’t give me something to help his eyes and make them less sore.

they gave him stronghold, which has to be applied every 2 weeks.

I have to disagree, it is NOT ok for a dog to attack anyone, let alone its owner. Telling people he is giving a warning could be very dangerous IMO, almost as though this behaviour is ok and acceptable. I read Jake has NEVER done this before, he isnt food possessive either. Im not saying that there wasnt a reason in HIS mind for what he did, but none the less a dog cannot be allowed to attack its owner, then try again shortly after, and people advise the owner he is a dog and was reacting and thats ok, it isnt.

Sorry, but I haven't read the whole of this thread yet, only so sorry to have read your original post, I hope you're not hurt too badly (both inside and out!).

My gut instinct here initially is definitely pain! On both occasions Jake was lying down, reluctant to move, you wanted him to move, he couldn't, you forced him to move, he attacked in the only way he knows how. To my mind, there is pain somewhere on him getting up, but having not ready right to the end, maybe you've been to the vet and he's checked that out? That would be my gut instinct here, I'm sure Jake wouldn't have turned on you for any other reason. Yes I know we get that horrible Kevin appearing somewhere along the line, but not like this, I honestly don't think this was bolshiness, and I know he did jump up on that other bed again which says he isn't in pain, but it could be just the getting down again, or maybe as he jumped up on the other bed for the 2nd time, it set the pain off again, so he didn't want to move?? Good luck, I will work my way through the whole thread now, you poor, poor thing.

thanks, it really isn’t usual for my boy…

He does have ear drops, but he has stronghold too. stronghold has to be applied every 2 weeks at the bottom of his neck between the shoulders so is a spot on. Not sure how long that should take effect in healing his eyes.

thanks, that’s a good idea with having a lead on him. hadn’t thought of that but think I will try it. I tried to listen to him, but he didn’t give me any warnings, well none that I saw and if there was any they must have been very slight.

He is back to being his loveable self today, and has been have a good play with me. me and jake do a lot of playing and training, so I think our relationship is a good one.

I need to go get ready for work now though so will reply to the other comments when I get in.

I don't believe I said it was acceptable - I think I said it was understandable - big difference.

A dog should not attack its owner - but people also have to realise that these are dogs and theirs minds work differently to ours.

If you confront a dog in a situation where it has given an indication it is not comfortable, and then you corner it there is a strong possibility you will get snapped at or bitten.
Telling people to ignore those warnings a dog has given and 'make sure they do as they are told' IMO is a tad more dangerous.

Hope things improve all round LB, it can appear as though one thing is on top of another sometimes, it will get better.

I've seen this with my own eyes with two of my dogs in the past, so I backed off, knowing they were in pain, somewhere! A normal, well blanced dog, who is just trying it on, or impersonating Kevin,would NEVER go to the extremes of biting it's OWNER, never in a million years! They know the hand that feeds them, they're not daft!

Out of interest - what were the circumstanses surrounding him growling at your neice? and how did you get him over it?

Didnt you hit/smack him when he wouldnt get down/move before he bit you? That was the punishment i was refering too.

Behaviour is behaviour, he dosent listen to you outside & because you havent sorted that out then that not listening is now extending to indoors. Behaviour both good & bad always gets stronger & evolves.

Thats the thing, I agree with what you said, but Jake gave Lozzi no warning. Im sure if he growled at her or lifted his lips, she wouldnt of tried to move him. She has done what she did many times before, it wasnt strange behaviour for him, it wasnt new or different. He chose, without warning to bite her face and hands, then again a short time later, from what I gather would of been a worse attack than the first.

I just dont like some of the complacency in some of the posts that all, anyone who's dog may be biting for some reason could see this as "normal" and "allowed" which IMO could lead to very serious consequences for some people. Im not trying to be awkward, just pointing out how it comes across.