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18-05-2009, 08:47 PM

Book of the Bitch - quite shocked

I was given 'The book of the Bitch' for my birthday on Saturday (quite an apt present from my boyfriend I think!).

Just having a bit of a read tonight & am quite shocked at what is written in page 41 Biting. It reads........This merits a growl and a snap on your part, copying the mode of punishment an adult dog would give her. A sharp shake is an extreme lesson, but sometimes necessary when the puppy gets over-excited as she will on occasion until she learns her limits.
What are they thinking? words fail me.
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18-05-2009, 08:48 PM
Oh no, wait for the increase in cases of dogs being bitten by humans
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18-05-2009, 09:06 PM
I've heard this before....pup gets excited, you nip it's ear .....like mom would to put it in it's place.

On the other side of the coin.....I bite Bruces neck constantly ( whilst mumbling in his fur...your Mommies handsome boy) and he repays me by chewing my ears
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18-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Its the giving it a shake bit that is concerning me!
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18-05-2009, 09:16 PM
The Book of the Bitch was published in 1988 so I wouldn't expect a sudden surge this week.

I have another book on my desk by a trainer who is well regarded by some (not least by himself). The section for training a 'down' warns...


"The struggle might be quite fierce and noisy the first time and prove quite traumatic to both you and the dog."

Nice, huh?

Still better than Koehler.
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18-05-2009, 09:22 PM
I think I've led a sheltered life sounds like lion training! Makes you realise what was acceptable behaviour a very short time ago. Not surprising that there are still some stragglers left.
Koehler - is that a training book? ...still very new to all this type of literature.
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18-05-2009, 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Mouse View Post
Koehler - is that a training book?

Lol. There's got to be a thread on here somewhere. I'll go look
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18-05-2009, 10:51 PM
I have before been advised to bite the ear of my dog as a punishment and to pick them up by the scruff to calm them...

One sounds like a good way to get your face bitten, the other to get your arm bitten! neither would seem to be a punishment, nor calming
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18-05-2009, 11:01 PM
Meh...he gets a mention here and there but no good threads on this forum.

William Koehler was a dog trainer in America. Opinions are divided. Some say...

Bill gave us a way to train dogs while at the same time honoring their very dog-ness.
http://www.dogpro.org/index.php?pageID=181

others maintain...

Koehler Method
Heavy-handed, compulsion-style dog obedience training method developed by William Koehler. Some of his problem-solving and disciplinary techniques are extremely harsh (which we do NOT recommend.) Strong emphasis on compulsion and physical correction, as well as after-the-fact discipline.
http://www.inch.com/~dogs/training.html

As flavour - Koehler's method for stopping a dog from digging in the flowerbeds involved making the dog believe that it was dying. I don't think anyone in the UK advertises as using his methods but several trainers in the States still revere him.
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19-05-2009, 04:36 AM
Originally Posted by johnderondon View Post
The Book of the Bitch was published in 1988 so I wouldn't expect a sudden surge this week.

I have another book on my desk by a trainer who is well regarded by some (not least by himself). The section for training a 'down' warns...


"The struggle might be quite fierce and noisy the first time and prove quite traumatic to both you and the dog."

Nice, huh?

Still better than Koehler.
I think that book deserves a nudge off the desk and into the bin...
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