Right DD, very quickly because I'm about to go and get my dogs out, just google the price difference between chinese crested and Labrador pups. There are some similar prices and some not so similar, why is that?

I dont know .. I know diddly squat about labs or what they go for. It would also depend what prices you saw for the Cresties.. because they actually vary alot.

Probably the same with any breeds; price depends on the 'quality' of the pup. You could get a Lab pup from a BYB for £250, yet a pup from a FTCH x FTCH mating could easily go for £1000+ or way more.

Too many people cash in on breeds in high demand, simple. Toys are very popular atm, often for the wrong reason and are often homed to unsuitable people but there you go. I didn't pay through the nose for Ronnie, pedigree pom, vaccinated, insured etc etc, and his breeder charges no more depending on colour or sex, which seems popular in Pomeranians! That sort of figure for a dog as the thread is about is ridiculous, can't see how anyone can justify.

This last statement is inherently wrong. I have 4 dogs. None fo them cost me £1000+ or more. Two out of the 4 are already involved in showing and competitions. They all have individual activities too. I can afford the upkeep of every one of them.

Decent breeders don't breed to make money. My Unce (many years ago) bred SBTs. His pups were all the same price regarldess of colour or gender. He had several litters over about 10 years. On the last litter he broke even. Every other litter he lost a lot of money.

Fair enough.

But, lets take a breed like pugs. They can be prone to eye injuries, these cost about £4000 to put right. If a person cant cough up the £1000 to purchase a pup i would be very concerned as to whether they would be able to afford to cover such high veterinary bills. Or to pay the insurance which is usually about double that of a lab or cross breed with most insurance companies.

I stand by what I said, if someone is going to quibble over the price of a pup that is not overpriced for the breed, then I would question whether they were the right person to own one of my pups. We dont overprice ours, they are the lower end of the average price probably, and if people try to haggle then that raises alarm bells for me. The cost shouldnt be the most important thing when searching for a pup.

Milos blue and I paid £225 for him. He was supposed to be £250 but the breeder knocked money off for travelling to get him. The blues in the litter cost the same as the blacks and he kept two of the puppies which were a light fawn I think it is (some people call it champaigne?) and a blue boy

Pups were not kc reg hence being quite cheap but he still charged the same price for all pups regardless of sex/ colour he just wanted them to go to good homes

I couldn't see myself ever paying that much for any dog and I think it's wrong to charge that much for a pup just because of it's colour!

Haven't got time to multi quote people, but why, when you quickly look at the price of a couple of different breeds, do you get a vast majority, so for example when I googled pups last night, of Labs around the 200-700 price mark, and the vast majority of chinese crested pups are 500 and above?

I'm not trying to say people are breeding these breeds because they get more for the pups (although I'm sure some do), but cost is certainly a factor even for ethical breeders. For breeds where they are small, have whelping difficulties, lots of health tests, that WILL push the price up. Or are all the ethical breeders on here also philanthropists? There are points where any breeder has a large lump sum because they've produced a litter and sold the pups, and nothing (thank God) has really gone wrong. So if you breed Labs and you sell your litter of 8 pups for £500 each, or if you breed a smaller breed that only has a litter of 5, and you choose to sell them for £600 each because the costs are greater per pup, I do not see anything wrong with that? Or am I missing the point? It looks, on the surface, as though you will be making money, but as most breeders know that go about it the right way, you may have a lump sum of cash every now and then, but the slow and steady trickle combined with the occasional bit hit to the pocket, far outstrips any of the money made with the occasional litter.

I'm really not sure why people get uppity when you talk about money, I prefer the outright honest approach, yes, if I do go ahead and breed I may well end up with a couple of thousand pounds from a litter, but that won't be profit by any stretch of the imagination.

Thought the same

Oh i know this all too well - I have always wanted a french bulldog. There is just something about them that tugs at heart every time i see one!

I was looking for ages to rescue one, I found a breeder who had a deaf pup and was still asking for £1,500 knowing that the people who would have taken her would have a life long struggle with her and expensive vet bills to care for her in the future. And to top it off she offered me a 5yr old female that had finished breeding and just needed a loving home for £1,000.

I was so annoyed that I gave up, and my OH has always wanted a pug and we knew of someone who needed to rehome their 5mnth Male, so we offered to give him a trial. because he had papers and was so darn cute we offered them £400 and they agreed. When we had taken him home (for the trial - to see if he would get on with Nacho, and they loved each other) they decided to put the price up to £500. Now if i was looking to Buy a pug from a breeder etc i would not have a problem paying that much if not more as i know it is cheap but i had no idea what the parents were like. The fact that they were looking to rehome him because a family member was sick and they were trying to make money out of him really made me Mad! this poor lil guy was not even toilet trained and didnt know how to sit!

Some people are shockingly greedy!