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Originally Posted by Reisu
Ah see when I said WSD I meant a dog bred from working stock, ISDS reg or unregistered, and a BC as a show/sport line dog, but still both being BCs... think i see what ripsnorter meant by can of worms now though  why is it the KC does this with BCs and not other breeds, seems a bit of a weird thing to do.
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So my dog who is ISDS reg is a WSD which is fine by me as he wasn't born in the Borders. Interesting thought, what are my two full brother & sister as they are from both KC dogs & ISDS dogs & when I have my litter the mother will be an ISDS bitch(born in Scotland or Wales-but not in the Borders)so will be a WSD & the father will either be Wukee or one of his brothers which would make the puppies ????????? WSD x WSD x BC ?????????
However I could use Wukee on a mongrel & register the puppies with the KC as WSD on the activities register & no one would be any wiser because they would look like BC/WSD, of course the genetic background to the mother would be unknown, but I could call her a WSD & have all the DNA tests done for a WSD which she might pass, but then have something from one of the breeds behind her that isn't usually found behind WSD/BC which would be missed(such as Narcolepsy that is in Labradors) & then somewhere down the line one of her offspring is bred to another dog from the same genetic make up & bang you have another genetic condition appearing seemingly from nowhere in WSD.
You can register dogs on merit with the ISDS but they do have to be from a known pedigree, in which one or more of the dogs haven't been registered with the ISDS for some reason(such as the breeder not being a member of the ISDS)
There is of course a case on record of an ISDS bitch being bred to an ISDS dog & producing a litter, which however when DNA tested, the litter proved not to be by the ISDS dog, I know of one puppy that was registered as an WSD with the KC(wasn't of course eligible for ISDS reg because of unknown background of father) In truth this dog should have been registered as a XB as no one knew who the father was, could have been another collie or a passing Heinz 57 etc etc etc. If this dog had not been virtually blind with CEA the query would have never arisen & a cross breed would have been added to the gene pool of ISDS WSD(KC BC)
