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09-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Front leg growth plates closing in pups?

Anyone know anything about growth plates closing.

I know of a litter of pups and 3 of them found so far have major problems with there growth plates and the "Wrists" making feet flap!!

I have no idea what i am on about which is probabley really obvious to anyone with experience in these problems.

I am wondering if you have or know about these probems what causes them. Could it be done by damage or could it be a problem with the breeding.

Any ideas generally?
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09-07-2008, 10:32 PM
Appartently these pups have loose carpal joints if that means anything to anyone. Bad Breeding or injury, any thoughts and their front leg growth plates have closed prematurely.

They have had surgery to remove a muscle from there body to be put into there legs. Anyone any thoughts. Wondered if anyone had ever had dealings with these issues and what they thought the cause might have been.
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09-07-2008, 10:50 PM
I presume you mean Carpal flexural deformity, I know of one GSD that someone was asking about last year I have got a study on this on ten different breeds, there did seem to be a breed disposition towards it in Dobermanns but the study concluded it was a nutritional deficiency. try googling the name
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09-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by wildmoor View Post
I presume you mean Carpal flexural deformity, I know of one GSD that someone was asking about last year I have got a study on this on ten different breeds, there did seem to be a breed disposition towards it in Dobermanns but the study concluded it was a nutritional deficiency. try googling the name
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Yes, what you are saying sounds right, i will try to google tomorrow when i am a bit more with it.

There seemed to be several opinions from different vets, some saying its past on in the breeding and others saying feeding issues have caused this. There has also been talk of the pups being bullied by older dogs prior to 8 weeks daily and wondered if this could have caused these sorts of problems.
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09-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Just to add the pups where newfoundlands.
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09-07-2008, 11:01 PM
The breeds used in the study were
Anatolian Sheepdog 8, mixed breed (6),
Rottweiler (5), English Setter (4), German Shepherd
(3), Irish Setter (1), Italian Pointer (1), Doberman
Pinscher (1), Staffordshire Bull Terrier (1), Pitbull
Terrier (1). The ages of the puppies ranged between
6–24 weeks. The deformity was seen to occur most
frequently in the 6–8 week period
If you want me to email the pdf doc I can
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09-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by wildmoor View Post
The breeds used in the study were
Anatolian Sheepdog 8, mixed breed (6),
Rottweiler (5), English Setter (4), German Shepherd
(3), Irish Setter (1), Italian Pointer (1), Doberman
Pinscher (1), Staffordshire Bull Terrier (1), Pitbull
Terrier (1). The ages of the puppies ranged between
624 weeks. The deformity was seen to occur most
frequently in the 68 week period
If you want me to email the pdf doc I can
Thank you.

I have pm'd you my email address, if you could send it to me that would be great. thanks.
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09-07-2008, 11:11 PM
sent it to you
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10-07-2008, 01:44 PM
Thanks for that, it was interesting. I have now passed it on to a friend of mine.

I have never heard of these problems so it was good to get a picture of these poor pups suffering with these problems, so i know a little more when my friend is talking to me about it.

Help greatly appreciated, thanks.
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