Reply from No10 re permission to band dogs tails

[Lizzy23]

wish someone would tell my springers that they don't work might stop them running through cover, having just seen a friend of mine have to more or less crate her dog for a month because she has had to have her tail amputated because she kept damaging it running through cover on normal walks i wish there was some way round it, it caused her foart more pain and suffering than it would have done had it been banded docked at a young age.

[Ripsnorterthe2nd]

What a load of bull crap that really is, they don't know the first thing about working dogs. And it's obvious they haven't even thought about dogs that are worked and shown!

[morganstar]

I know, my dogs been used at stud I show they work, decided best thing is to dock and I wont show the best in litter.....

[Phil]

Am I missing something here - I'm OK with docking but to me 'banding' is really just a method of docking ?

[morganstar]

the difference is instead of cutting the place a band round the tail at such a young age the tail withers and drops off.
My pups sleep through it

[Patch]

Originally Posted by Phil

Am I missing something here - I'm OK with docking but to me 'banding' is really just a method of docking ?

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._for_dogs.html

Docked Tails
Puppies tail are usually docked between the 2nd - 10th days of life. There is no anesthesia used when performing the cosmetic surgery of tail docking, even when performed by a veterinarian. There are two common ways to perform the cosmetic surgery of tail docking, clamping and banding. When clamping, the tail is clamped a short distance from the body. The length of the tail outside the clamp is then cut or torn away.

Banding is a far more painful way to perform the cosmetic surgery of tail docking. Banding is commonly used by breeders. In banding the breeder will dock the puppy's tail by "banding" or tying off the tail. The banding stops the blood supply and results in an infection known as dry gangrene. The dead portion of the tail puppy's tail is then allowed to rot in place until it falls off about three days later.

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Hope that answers your question regarding the method.

**Its an article on various things done to dogs in the US hence the difference in how old pups are when that thing is done to them to this country, [ until sense prevails and all docking stops once and for all like in the more enlightened countries ].

[Phil]

I know the methods

But banding or a knife ?

Docking is docking ?

[Shona]

I got one also

[Ramble]

Sorry guys, working section or no working section...hoorah to that.
All for the ban and don't personally think it goes far enough.