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18-09-2016, 10:07 AM

My puppy is uncontrollable. HELP??

I’m a 17 y/o girl and my family and I are out of ideas.
I’ve had my 15 week old pup since he was 6 weeks (which was too young, i know).
He’s a Pomsky (a Pomeranian - Husky mix)
The day we brought him home he was playful, but calm (probably normal).


The first few days we thought we had the perfect pup. He took a lot of our energy,
but we knew that a lot of work came with a puppy. We also noticed that he was play biting
a lot, but that’s normal puppy behavior.

However, a few days later his biting started getting more and more agressive and we couldn’t
do normal things like cook dinner or watch tv without him biting at our ankles or barking for attention.
We had to entertain him 24/7 for him to not hurt us, whilst I know that a puppy has to get a lot of rest between play time. He just didn’t seem to get tired of tiring us out.

So we began walking him at 8 weeks, which was nessecary in order for him to calm down just a little bit.
We taught him how to fetch. And bought him more bones to bite on and toys to play with.
Ultimately he just prefers the taste of our skin and drops everything just to get a chance to bite us instead.

We’ve tried everything;
-Our vet said we had a very dominant pup and we could put him in his place by holding him in a grip until he surrenders and calms down. It worked perfectly at the vet, but at home as soon as we released him he would bite us again.
-The dog trainer recommended we try soft correction by dropping a set of keys on his butt, to make him jump and go “oh, shouldn’t have done that”. That worked for a little while, but eventually he just,
get this… bites again.
-A friend said she used to pull the lip of her dog over his teeth when he bit, so he would know it hurt and he shouldn’t do this to others. It worked in her case, but our pup just keeps biting.

I don’t feel like it works. If anything it makes him more angry.

Other attempts include redirection, ignoring, being angry and making angry faces, saying “no” “down” “let go” etc.. Even this which I know is wrong, but sometimes we have to lock him in his crate as punishment and just because we can’t take it any more.

for weeks we’ve had to hear things like “He’s just a puppy” “ That’s normal” “ They all play bite”
The thing is that they don’t know what he’s like and all they see is his cute face. I know when a puppy play bites. He can be very sweet, but sometimes he just wants to hurt us. Especially me.

I don’t know what to make of him because he’s very smart and he will listen very quickly, because he knows he’ll get a treat. But pay attention to anything other than him and he becomes unreasonable.

We’ve been stressed out for as long as we’ve had him and it’s taking a very large toll on our happiness.
I knew that signing up to a puppy wasn’t going to be the easiest thing, believe me I know that they can be exhausting. But this is something I would've never ever signed up for if I had known. I’ve tried so many times to enjoy him, but it’s impossible to even get up and do anything, because I’m just that exhausted.
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18-09-2016, 11:40 AM
What happens if you stand perfectly still and ignore him (no eye contact either)? As soon as he stops, go back to what you were doing and repeat, repeat, repeat.

If that has no effect, try walking out of the room and closing the door. Again, no correction, no attention. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Sorry, but your vet and trainer have, in my opinion, given you bad advice. Huskies are strong minded dogs and the corrections you have given could well be seen as part of the fun because his actions have caused a reaction - great game for a pup
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18-09-2016, 11:43 AM
Gosh what a mix!! I cannot begin to imagine what he looks like, but it sounds like you have a "Hal" on your hands (an dog of mine - mainly alaskan mal x wolf cross and a Git right from the start!).

First of all, don't beat yourself up too much about him only being 6 weeks when you got him. 8 weeks is better, but this particular breed type - northern breed - they are fast developers and you can take them off the mother sooner in my experience.

Secondly, whatever you do, do not meet aggression with aggression. Be firm, be assertive, but do not use any physical force at all, such as pinning, holding his mouth shut etc. etc. What I would do - and I am sure there are others more wiser and experienced on here than me who will say otherwise - is to "take over" his space - with your hand held up in a clear stop signal, with the finger next to the thumb held up, the rest of the fingers held into the palm, say "No!" sharply - or I prefer "ah-ah" with a puppy. If he bites, or attempts to bite, or does not back off, gently tap him on the shoulder with your hand in a pushing away gesture and repeat your command again - not shouting, but assertively. Use your hand held stiffly with the fingers outstretched and try and claim the space around him with your hand. Under no circumstances strike him in any way, just a gentle nudge is the most you should do.

If he really is hurting you, you could wear a glove padded enough to protect you from those little needle teeth. Or you could snatch your hand away and shout out loudly "Ouch!" ... I am not so keen on this method, but I firmly believe in rolling with the punches and not one size fits all.

When you have got him to be more respectful and to back off, you could reward him with a tiny bit of liver or something really tasty. I prefer not to use titbits, but other lovely things such as toys or just plain praise.

He is not trying to hurt you - he is just being a puppy, but nevertheless this behaviour has to be stopped. He is finding his feet in the pack, and you need to demonstrate to him that YOU are the loving Boss - firm but fair - lots of love, praise and fun, but no tolerance of behaviour that you find undesirable. Being a pom x husky, he will be extremely intelligent I would think and will learn quickly.

By the way, be careful of walking him out in places frequented by other dogs in particular - at such a young age he won't have had all his vaccinations yet. If at all possible only walk him in isolated places until he has had all his jabs. Some people advocate that you must not take them out at all until they have had all their vax, but I personally have always got my pups out there right from the start, avoiding all areas of regular dog use. It is so important to socialise your dog in the first 12 weeks, and my personal opinion is that the very small risk if you are careful is one worth taking.

Good luck and I hope he stops biting you!!
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18-09-2016, 12:45 PM
Goodness mind boggles.Which was the mum and which was the dad? Change the food to lower protein. Not wet food. Dry complete food or fresh food with veggies. Where in the uk are you?
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18-09-2016, 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Chris View Post
What happens if you stand perfectly still and ignore him (no eye contact either)? As soon as he stops, go back to what you were doing and repeat, repeat, repeat.

If that has no effect, try walking out of the room and closing the door. Again, no correction, no attention. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Sorry, but your vet and trainer have, in my opinion, given you bad advice. Huskies are strong minded dogs and the corrections you have given could well be seen as part of the fun because his actions have caused a reaction - great game for a pup
Chris - with a husky, I am not sure this is a good idea! I could never have done this with any of my northern breeds because quite simply as soon as you left them alone in a room and went out and closed the door they would be within a minute jumping on the door handle, scratching the wood and generally doing an awful lot of damage! I agree with most dogs this would work, but my experience of breeds like husky is you are running the risk of having some expensive bills! Hal aged 8 weeks clawed his way through a pine kitchen door!!
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18-09-2016, 03:50 PM
Firstly, your pup was taken away from its mother and siblings far too young, they learn from their mother and siblings about bite inhibition. I also have a feeling its illegal to sell a puppy under 8 weeks, I would certainly never ever even consider doing that because puppies learn so much in that time period.
I am wondering when the puppies were actually parted from their mother if they were being sold at 6 weeks, their mother teaches them from an early age not to bite and their siblings will reinforce that because if one puppy hurts another then it gets hurt back very quickly and forcefully. The poor thing has obviously never had the luxury of living in a family environment.
Secondly, look for a reputable training club in your area that is part of the Good Citizen Scheme
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/trai...raining-clubs/
there you will be taught how to handle your puppy and also how to stop unwanted behaviour.
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18-09-2016, 08:44 PM
The mom's a husky and the dad's pomeranian. It was an artificial insemination of course. :3
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18-09-2016, 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Finnthepomsky View Post
The mom's a husky and the dad's pomeranian. It was an artificial insemination of course. :3
What!!! I assumed that this was an accidental mating - how and why on EARTH would someone actually deliberately plan such a cross?
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18-09-2016, 09:35 PM
Money, Nikki. Same reason as the puppy was sold far too young to unsuspecting people, that way they saved on vaccination costs and keep
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18-09-2016, 10:04 PM
.... and microchipping. I would imagine no health testing either.
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