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01-09-2009, 01:55 AM   #1

Northern Inuits x CsV


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01-09-2009, 07:54 AM   #2

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


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Hi, am new to the forum! I'm a pet behaviour counsellor in Oxon Uk, am just on the verge of buying a NI X with CsV.
But, en route to what I hpe will be a happy conclusion, I have come across so much awful bitchiness, breeders slating other breeders, a big North/South divide so it seems, and perhaps most alarmingly of all, nearly getting a pup from someone (who I believe is high up in the NI Association), who has apparently been banned twice, for 5 years each time, for cruelty. What on earth is going on? What did this breeder do?!! Am going for NI mum with NIxCsV dad so pup'll be quarter CsV. Was considering part Saarloos but have heard they tend toward timidity and prey drive exceptionally strong. Anybody out there who has such a pup or dog (as the one I'm planning on buying), comments on this breeder etc?
Welcome to dogsey.

Can I ask who you are buying your pup off, just curious.

The cruelty convictions you speak of, 1 was for a dog, though not sure what she did to get it, the second was I believe neglect of reptiles. Its beggers belief that some one with that history should be allowed to be high up in any animal related society.

Though I don't own one now, I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to have a wolfdog, prob a czech.

You will find that threads about these crosses can get quite heated on here, as many people have strong views on the subject. Though I can understand the idea of outcrossing to improve the ni genepool, I'd have liked it if the people bringing the 2 wolfdog breeds into this country, had allowed them to become established as breeds in their own right, before playing with them, as now many good breeders understandably will not export to the uk.



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01-09-2009, 08:54 AM   #3

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


Hi Petbehaviour.
I think you must have your wires crossed somewhere as the breeder you are talking about breeds only NI dogs.[mod edit/please read Posing Guidelines 6.6]You will see a lot of negativity towards the breeders of these dogs here on Dogsey but not the dogs themselves.
Europe will no longer sell to the U.K as they do not approve of all the crossbreeding that is going on. Hope that helps.



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01-09-2009, 09:00 AM   #4

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


I think given all the threads on these dogs you should reach your own conclusion as to whether you want to own one. there are one or two breeders that do have the dogs welfare at heart, but in my experience they are north rather than south.



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01-09-2009, 09:23 AM   #5

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


thank god no1 penalises the dogs my ni is a rescue from manchester dogs home whom we love very much only i dint realise the stigma attatched to the breed she is a gawguss dog tho and i have been abl to get pics of her mum n two sisters so any one i talked to has been very kind talia has been with us since july and she ant had a good time of it bless her till she came home xxx



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01-09-2009, 09:24 AM   #6

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


p.s who is the breeder accused of cruelty ?



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01-09-2009, 11:59 AM   #7

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


I have just been looking at pet insurance, and a lot of companies will not insure any dogs crossed with cwd or sarloos. I think potential owners need to be aware of this.



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01-09-2009, 12:35 PM   #8

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Oh give me a break, go get your Ni x czech and live happily ever after, I wish you all the best, truly I do. We, the NI have been happily poddering about, minding our own beeswax and bothering nobody, read back on all the NI threads, and there are a lot of them, gather your own conclusions, if you like to believe all you read, isnt it time individuals were left alone, believe me, in the world of sarloos crosses and cwd crosses, the breeders arent lily white as they would have you believe, but to me, they hold little or no interest anymore, Im so tired of the lies and the bitching, so therefore, I find it best to ignore the mudslinging.



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01-09-2009, 01:51 PM   #9

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


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Hi, am new to the forum! I'm a pet behaviour counsellor in Oxon Uk, am just on the verge of buying a NI X with CsV.
But, en route to what I hpe will be a happy conclusion, I have come across so much awful bitchiness, breeders slating other breeders, a big North/South divide so it seems, and perhaps most alarmingly of all, nearly getting a pup from someone (who I believe is high up in the NI Association), who has apparently been banned twice, for 5 years each time, for cruelty. What on earth is going on? What did this breeder do?!! Am going for NI mum with NIxCsV dad so pup'll be quarter CsV. Was considering part Saarloos but have heard they tend toward timidity and prey drive exceptionally strong. Anybody out there who has such a pup or dog (as the one I'm planning on buying), comments on this breeder etc?
Hi Petbehaviour,

I dont know the breeders your talking about and am not interested in the politics of it all either. However I can give you my take owning 2 3/4 bred Saarloos/NI dogs I hope its of some use.

You are right- they do tend towards being reserved. If you want a bold dog definately dont get one. However, socialisation (as with all dogs) plays a key role. I have had one dog from a pup(now 9 months) and one from 6 months old (now 14 months). The younger dog is much bolder and sociable as a rule-but, of course, is yet to mature. With family they are VERY affectionate- they follow you everywhere!

Both have extremely high prey drive and hunt together as a pack given the opportunity. I let them chase rabbits etc but I can stop them going after ducks/geese in public parks. I would never trust them off leash near sheep. If prey drive is a concern for you in your area these are probably not the dogs for you.

The CZWs and crosses are definately supposed to be bolder and more "workeable" but my personal experience is limited to a few brief encounters so I cant really help there. My limited understanding is that they too have a high prey drive though.

On this website you will find a number of people offer what they consider to be "expert" opinions on these dogs having never/rarely met any of them. Im afraid some of these people do also have a go at the dogs/ owners and not just the breeders-its all on the previous threads.

However, outside the world of "Dogsey" I have never encountered such behaviour regarding my dogs.

I guess you just have to meet as many of these type of dogs as you can, be satisfied with whatever breeder you choose (or dont), and come to your own conclusions.

I hope some of my post provides some useful info!



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01-09-2009, 02:26 PM   #10

Re: Northern Inuits x CsV


As sutty has said i think certain things have been run into the ground enough by now. I know what breeder you are on about and TBH you would be lucky to get a dog from her! Things are not always black and white esp with the RSPCA as has been shown by there recent actions.

With regards to the cross you are thinking of getting as with anycrosss its going to be hit of miss what you are going to get. From a personal view point i can only see one reason for such crosses where little though has gone into it and thats £££££'s.



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