Well, if anyone wants a huskamute there`s 2 young ones at Many Tears and a young labradoodle in Allbreeds. These are the only 2 places I googled. Would people looking for these first crosses take rescues? If not, why not? Just wondering why...

I suppose it may be for the same reasons that people choose a pedigree puppy from a breeder instead of going to a specific breed rescue.

I have to say that me personally will never by from a breeder again. I would think that going to Labradoodle Trust would actually be a whole lot better than a puppy as the dogs will have been assessed and the coat type will most like be known, so those who need a low shed for whatever reason can be safe in their choice.

I totally agree with you about the rescue thing, its a whole lot safer going to a rescue as you allready know what your getting, and a rescue will be more honest about the dogs then some breeders of the crosses as they want the dog to go to a forever home, not be bounced around or come back to them.

I have to say now that I can only see myself getting rescue dogs in the future, although there is a breeding kennels that I would love to get a bull terrier from it would be nice saving a life, and as I don't want to get involved in showing I don't need a show quality animal, but would only need a good family pet, and there are plently of them in rescue centres all over the country desparetly waiting for a new home or even never getting out of the kennels as no-one wants them

I think its more to do with, they cant understand why anyone would want to abuse their breed .


I would not presume to tell you what type of dog to buy..

And while I am on it..I dont have a problem with xbreeds

But I do have a problem with those who breed such dogs giving false promises about temperament /shedding and health.


Not not a problem, just fact, the doodle of any type will unfortuantly never become a recognized breed , simply because of the facts stated.

You also seem to be under the impression I have a problem with the creation of a breed for a purpose...

But the Labradoodle failed in that ..as in the info posted in an earlier post explained... as for the rest of the doodle creations... I fail to see what they contribute to the canine world... as has been said many times before , there are already many breeds to fit every porpose.


Sorry , not unaware of anything, the fact some breeders (few_ adhere to their code of ethics... wont help them in their quest to become a breed.

Again as stated in my earlier post, to become a recognized breed they will have to breed to type for generations.. the breeding programme MUST be controlled... and I cant see how that will ever happen.

Each to their own, pure bred /Xbreed/ mongral..we love them all.

I don't think you can get a dog more "goofy" than a standard poodle My friend has a lovely boy who is best friends with my BC I never liked poodles until i met him, and i can honestly say you would be hard pushed to find a dog that has as wonderful a temperament as him. I get as sick as my friend does with people asking if he's a doodle All the labradoodles i have met (and there's a lot here) have had to be kept on lead as they are uncontrollable and the one goldendoodle i know (beautiful girl) has a more golden coat than poodle, but is so very nervous of everything

I have a bitsa (or scruffy mutt if you like) and i have been asked by doodle people if she's a short labradoodle

Dog nut
I'm sorry, but as lovely as your boy is (and i really do think he is ) i can't see ANY golden in there at all
Maybe you should post a bigger close up of him

Jann
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I would have thought that if you purchase a dog that is a mix of two breeds, it is because you 'love' both breeds?

There seems to be a myth out there that temperament of mixbreeds or mutts is TOTALLY unpredictable. I have known mutt breeders all my life and this rumour is a complete exaggeration (a lie, not true). Temperament is less predictable but any breeder worth their salt has an idea of what temperaments will come from their litters.

A mix of two breeds most often is somewhere "between" the two parent breeds. To like the temperament of a Poodle mix does not mean you'll have to like the temperament of the Poodle. It WILL be influenced by the cross.

Landrace breeds were predictably enough bred for thousands of years before the idea of "pure" was introduced using background knowledge of the parents and their temperaments, and continue being bred this way in many, many places.

Do you really believe it is abuse to breed pure to mixed? I am sitting here completely drop jawed at this statement of canine eugenecist thinking and pure racism.

As do I with both breeders of purebred and mixes, but you seem to single out mixbreed breeders for particular wrath. Why? . . . . perhaps the thinking you portray in the quote above is why.

As a person of mixed heritage who has married and bred to a person of even a different mixed heritage and produced two wonderful rainbow children I have to decide at this point, Jackbox, that you and I are too far apart in any kind of thinking to ever see eye to eye. This will be the end of my replies to you on this topic. This is obviously pointless between you and I.

I think you have said things very well here JanieM

I am aware that by crossing two breeds you will get temperament influences from both, but that was not the point I was trying to make. Dog-nut suggested that he wasn't a fan of Poodles. Yet his dog is half Poodle and looks almost exactly like a purebred Poodle. I just thought it was a pretty odd statement to make.

I certainly wouldn't get a purposely bred crossbreed unless I loved the temperaments of BOTH breeds, as apposed to just one.



I know this wasn't directed to me, however I must say that most if not all reputable breeders of Labs/Poodles/Goldens and whatever other breed they use to make 'Doodles' would NOT use their dogs to produce mixes.

That would be your decision to make.

I don't like independent small breeds in general (lhasa, shih tzu etc.), as I really favor biddability, but my very favorite dog ever had on grand-dam that was lhasa. Just because a breed is part or even half of the background does not mean the pups WILL be a lot like that breed.

It was quite easy to pick through the litter and find the pup that had the most biddability for me. (She was not a purchased pup, by the way. The litter was up for adoption by the dam's foster mom who was also fostering the grand-dam, both taken in from a family that couldn't cope. The dam also obviously had some Sheltie in her and we are all clueless as to the sire but my pup was one of the shedding ones in a litter that had both shedding and non in it. ).

I don't like poodles (mostly because of the too smart and what I call generally "high strung" temperament), yet I have liked every small poodle mix I've met. I particularly like the temperaments of Cockapoos (not the coat though) but I would guess that is cuz I find a lot attractive in the Cocker temperament.

Reputable is a self-defined word so means very little. I do not consider the vast majority of those who show reputable, and to me, in some breeds there is no such thing as a reputable breeder. I could see some breeders hesitating or refusing to mix breeds or outcross as they didn't understand the aim. They would not call it, though, "abuse" to use a pure on a mixed. If they did that would reflect a worship of pure just for the sake of pure - the thought that pure is superior or somehow more deserving - and I would consider them tainted by eugenecist thinking as well. That kind of thinking is disturbing when applied to Collies or Caucasians.

He does look like more a poodle, although he has some golden highlights on his ears and back...also has the tail of a golden.

His personality is different than either a poodle or a golden...I don't even know if I can call it a combination.
In the past four years, I have met many poodles, goldens, and goldendoodles.
Goldendoodles seem to have a personality very much their own.
The only dogs I meet that I wish were mine mostly seem to be other goldendoodles.

Here is a picture showing his tail...and then a picture of his pop and mum.

A fourth picture, of Ernie chasing his goldendoodle friend...Mogley has much gold...he is quite large and quite a clown...the life of the party.