I know you are concerned for your Daughter's safety, any parent would be but is there no way that she can be accompanied by several adults, to keep her from harm. I think it's such a shame if she's worked so hard, to have to give up Crufts this year just because of some idiots that obviously have nothing better to do with their time. I'm not criticising at all, as a parent, I know you will do anything to protect your child (natural instinct) - I just hate to see these bullies win - which is what is going to happen if decent people stay away from Crufts! The organisers of the event had better have their act together with regard security! Of course, it could be that your Daughter doesn't want to show in the circumstances because of trouble. That being the case, I would agree that it would be better left until another year when perhaps these fools have learned that bullying tactics is not the way forward!!! Must be so disappointing for your Daughter after her hard work

I was going to suggest crate covers too so no passer by could drop anything into the dog while it was crated, thats what I'd be doing if we were taking a dog. I'm pretty speechless about the whole situation really, imagine how fast we'd be rid of puppy farms etc if people directed their anger and protest at them instead of show people who in majority love their dogs immensley and only want to improve and protect their breeds future.

Whether you are paying a visit to the loo, getting something to eat of having a quick visit to the shops... all of these can take as long as the other... you can be in line for the loo/food for 1/2 hr.. the point is , at some point during the day, you will need to leave your dogs...

Most people will know those around them, as you are usually benched next to the same people at these shows.. people will look out for ech others dogs, givng them time to do what is needed.

But this yr, I feel people are going to be a little more paranoid over their dogs.. with good reason.




Its a shame you and she are goingt o miss something she has worked so hard for.

I am sure she will be fine, as long as she had adults with her.

Ya know its not so much being worried about my daughters dog getting hurt, It's more that I dont wish my daughter to see people acting the way these people are going to be!
And also i'd be more concerned about what my daughter might say to these protesters if she saw them trying to open peoples dogs cages etc.
Beth is actually taking not going to crufts very well, As toy day is Friday and she is still at school, and she knows her school work must take preferance to any dog show ( she has a wise head on her young shoulders, she must take after her dad, not me lol)
She's just made me promise i'll do the online entry things for her to enter welks and birmingham national?

Awww, that's good then. She sounds very sensible. Yes, you are right, hadn't thought of that angle, a teenager seeing/hearing what these morons might say/get up to! Such idiots. Spoiling the fun that many doggy people look forward to all year! Just hated to think that they had upset your Daughter by the decision not to go to Crufts. Good that she can look forward to other shows., where she can relax and enjoy the day, rather than wait for something to happen. I really hope that security is on the ball. Can't bear the thought of the dogs being frightened in any way

I have been thinking about this, Now in my mind the Nec owns all the land and car parks round about it?

If so you may find the protesters can only get as far as the access roads?

Not right up to the doors?

It could be worth someone emailing the NEC and asking what they plan, they must know protests are being arranged, they may be more than willing to put peoples mind at ease x

email for the nec

info@necgroup.co.uk

I've been thinking about this also...in the eyes of the law, dogs are classed as property? So if a demonstrator hurt or harmed a dog..could the owners then get the protesters arrested for criminal damage? If a protester hurts or harms an owner than surely that is assult/abh/gbh etc?

Isn't this all hearsay?
I have read on other forums that people have been in conatct with the original organisers of the demo (there was a link on Dogsey to a vegetarian group) and they have been assured that the demos will be peaceful.
I have no reason to doubt the word of those on the other forums.

Now I never would of thought it but I think I love you!

The voice of reason. None of this has happened yet and its like chinese whispers! There are lots of peaceful protests going on all around the country - against circuses, my beef, etc etc and more power to them. Its about education IMO.

Now steady on....one minute we're sworn enemires...then we move to a friendship...you are moving waaaaaaaaaay too fast for me now!!!!

It is like Chinese Whispers though and that's dangerous.

I have only heard of peaceful protests.
Were they peaceful outside Westminster?
(That's a general question and not one for my new best buddy Spot! )