Have you ever read ''The Field'' (Lynn Mctaggart), also 'A case for a creator' I forget the name.
I remain open-minded, but I have experienced somethings, that I can't explain. I don't think it is about convincing others, I think it is about experiencing it yourself.
The latter book is written by a journalist that didn't believe in God and went to speak to some academics, physicists and astronomers etc. Truly amazing stuff, like when you take a glance at the stars and for a fleeting moment understand that there is a bit more than the every day mundane, it's just most of us forget.
I'm I going a bit weird on you now...never mind wHHAy off topic.!

sorry jess, i just found myself trying to explain your last post, in terms of evolutionary theory.. in a tongue-in-cheek way, obviously! god i'm glad i refrained.. i'm also sorry.. for that and being way off topic...

I've just been reading these last couple of pages about Darwin and was glued to it (what a shame the library isnt open ) I think you should take that discussion to a new thread, I would enjoy reading it guys

Are you a neodarwinist too Mal?

I'm laughing at the the thought of that midwife! (She was probably thinking she'd have to find a horse to milk into a baby bottle.

My two kids were raised on "species appropriate feeding" when babes.

You mention your JRT being calmer on less meat and more carbs. Mine is the opposite. He is less hyper since ditching the kibble with it's carbs and going raw. I guess every individual is different! :smt001

I think to an extent everyone has to be, because new discoveries cannot be ignored

making a new thread!

I'm not sure 'unatural' is the right term here. If early humans hadn't domesticated other species, then changes to physiology, to adapt to their changing environment wouldn't have occurred. Drinking milk, and adapting the digestion to cope with it, is just part of the evolutionary process.


Absolutely! The adaptation to milk .... lactase persistence, which allows us to digest milk into adulthood, is the product on one single gene muation and is said to have first occurred in the European population that first domesticated cattle, less than 10k years ago. It facilitated the post glacial spread of humans through Europe, just the same as other mutations, like fair skin and blue eyes did.



Oh yes.... a very interesting topic. I've heard too many times, and experienced it in my own dogs, for it to be coincidence IMO.... that some dogs, if fed a diet too low in carbohydrate, loose condition, particularly in coat.

Since domestication, dogs have diverged into distinct types in widespread locations, with obviously, very varied diets. If they had the genetic capacity to cope with their diet they thrived and those that didn't simply didn't survive to pass on their genes.

It is said that breeds such as the early collies were fed almost exclusively on oats, as meat was such a valued commodity.

Pod, I love that you know what you are talking about - far more than me. It's good to have someone to look up to.

Wendy Vollhard's (have you heard of her) books are my life line, as they make so much sense to me, and I have them all (billinghurst/lonsdale etc)
She talks about the need for carbs, in relation to what you mentioned. Sadly pet foods are lacking in carbs, even though they read 'cereal' as mostly these 'cereals' are undigestable fillers.
Perhaps I could be permitted to go way out and suggest that the carbs given to collies aided their superior intelligence - or is that wishful thinking?!?!

I have heard of WV but not read her... I will if I get the change. But I did read Juliette be bariclay Levi (sp?) many years ago.... similar thinking by the sound of it.

Don't know about the collies, you could have a point. There just so much we don't know