i dont think i have a holier than thou attitude to it - what i am saying is that as far as i am concerned as a parent - I WOULD NEVER leave my child locked in a room by themselves whilst I left the building - end of. Thats my choice as a parent - i dont see why they couldnt have got a babysitter ? Its a family complex.

As someone else pointed out would i leave my kid in its bed whilst i had a barbq in my garden - yes i would but i would have the front door locked and a monitor on and with me so that i could check them - thats completely different from being on holiday and leaving them in a apartment by themselves.

yes its hard being a parent but its not an excuse.

I do feel for the parents I just feel that its not a sensible thing to do and people shouldnt be saying that its acceptable when its not - its not to say that its not sad because it is - and i am not saying that the parents deserve it but i do think it makes you wonder why they would leave them like that ?

You would really expect social services to call because you left your kids for five minutes?

Can you explain something to me.

Leaving a child in the house and leaving a child in a room a few metres away are not the same thing. Yet leaving a child in a room a few metres away and leaving one on their own for 2 weeks while you are 1000 milles away is. It just does not add up to me.

[QUOTE=cc22peatree;1000575] I am in the wrong mind then. My neice is staying at my house, she is asleep and the power went, my tourch was flat so i went next door to lend theirs as I could not see the fuse box.

Are you saying you have never left or never will leave your child for a minute?

But they were not left for 5 minutes were they? Different reports are saying different things, 15 mins, 30 mins - in all honesty yes IF I left my children for as long as those reports state I would expect social services to come knocking ESPECIALLY if my children were left locked alone in a room by themselves, for goodness sake anything could happen.
All I was trying to point out is that those that do these things are no different to parents that leave their kids home alone.

I must admit I wondered why they did not get a babysitter, but like i said no one knows the full story yet.

[QUOTE=Stormey;1000580] The day you have kids phil you will no the answer to that

I dont see how that is the same as locking your child in a room why you go for a meal elsewhere

But an accident can happen in a split second, These kids were asleep, the parents will know how long they sleep so probably assumed it was safe. The point I ment is I can fathom how you can say two things with so little difference in distance and time are different but two things with huge time and distance are the same. Seems a bit back to front

[QUOTE=cc22peatree;1000584] Oh the old you dont have kids excuse, I dont have kids but do have a lot of expeirience, more than a lot of parents in fact. This due to having more neices, nephews than I can remember most of which spend more time with me and there nanna than at home. While it may not be the same thing It puts me in a better postion than a lot of people, I also know while its not advised to leave them unattended its impossible to be with them 24/7.

May do to you, but not to me.

Don't matter whether they were 5 yards away or 5000 miles away to be honest to me, I sweat blood and tears to give life to my children, I wouldn't ever leave them in a situation where they were possibly at risk to themselves or someone else - I'm sorry if you don't understand that. And I certainly without a doubt would never ever leave them locked in a room with just themselves for company I wouldn't do it to a dog, never mind a defenceless child.

But isn't it true that everything we do is a risk?
Even crossing a road,is a risk.