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21-08-2016, 07:43 AM
That is just dogs idea of fun, the mouthing round the neck area isn't alpha nonsense my female Dobermanns did it to the male all the time, they're just playing, we use our hands and they use their mouths. We call it running interference.
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21-08-2016, 08:44 AM
Once and for all ... Ben is never allowed off the lead around other dogs. So there is no chance that he would interfere with your pugs unless they were off lead and came over to Ben!! No need to change direction ... our dog is under control. If yours are off lead then they are not under control ... end of.
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21-08-2016, 08:50 AM
Originally Posted by Kodiak17 View Post
Ok - so this is a typical trip to the dog park:

It begins with a handful of wind sprints across the park and back after his ball. He runs very fast, which typically results in other dogs chasing him..if they go after his ball, he gets super noisy and pushy to get them to back off. Then a trip to the water area. At this point he usually looks around to see what everyone else is doing. If there is another dog running around like crazy, he'll typically chase after them. Otherwise, he'll wander around sniffing everything. When he does chase after another dog, he'll usually end up doing this "hearding" thing, where he gets really noisy and puts his mouth on/around the dogs shoulder area as he chases them. It's seems like an alpha thing. Sometimes it will result in tripping and tumbling, because they are running so fast.
As soon as the other dog stops running or tells him enough is enough, he stops.

What do ya'll think? I feel as if that is dogs beings dogs, but what I worry about and why I question it is the way othe owners react.

This is just pure and simple dogs being dogs!! If other people dont like it then tough titty!! Your dog is not biting, he is joshing and mouthing. Equivalent to us playing catch me if you can.

It sounds to me like the whole point of dog parks is that the dogs learn to socialise and interact with other dogs ... my attitude would be to ignore them.

Your dog sounds very well balanced and well-socialised.
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21-08-2016, 09:09 AM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
Once and for all ... Ben is never allowed off the lead around other dogs. So there is no chance that he would interfere with your pugs unless they were off lead and came over to Ben!! No need to change direction ... our dog is under control. If yours are off lead then they are not under control ... end of.
You need to learn to read because I never at any point suggested he was off lead. When I see a dog on lead in the woods I always give them a wide berth, I don't actually care why they are on lead, it's not my problem and I won't allow it to become my problem. I will walk where I please and in the direction I choose I certainly don't need anyone's permission to do so.
My dogs may be off lead but are always under control, they never interfere with other dogs, they listen to me, they do as I say and being on a lead isn't always control, leads can be dropped.
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21-08-2016, 10:01 AM
Ok so now we get to the truth ... Ben is on a harness round my husbands waist and attached to his collar so no chance to drop anything!! However, your dogs, however lovely they are and im sure they are, are not under control because they are not on a lead. They may be the most obedient dogs in the world but they are not under contril if they are off lead!!

Dont want to be nasty on your birthday but facts are facts ... i am totally convinced that your dogs are well trained and obedient from what you say, but we have worked miracles with our Ben and turned him into a well-socialised, friendly dog ... but a dog that we can only allow to run free when there are no other dogs nearby because of his natural inclination to want to introduce himself correctly to strangers and vice versa.
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21-08-2016, 11:04 AM
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Ok so now we get to the truth ... Ben is on a harness round my husbands waist and attached to his collar so no chance to drop anything!! However, your dogs, however lovely they are and im sure they are, are not under control because they are not on a lead. They may be the most obedient dogs in the world but they are not under contril if they are off lead!!

Dont want to be nasty on your birthday but facts are facts ... i am totally convinced that your dogs are well trained and obedient from what you say, but we have worked miracles with our Ben and turned him into a well-socialised, friendly dog ... but a dog that we can only allow to run free when there are no other dogs nearby because of his natural inclination to want to introduce himself correctly to strangers and vice versa.
Be as nasty as you like, You're being delusional if you really believe only dogs on leads are under control. Forget the Pugs think about the Dobermanns big intimidating dogs that were always under control, very rarely on lead and I could control all three of them very easily with my voice and posture etc, they were well trained because I will not allow any dog of mine to be a nuisance to others. So if they were running down a forest path and a dog on lead appeared I could easily control them with my voice, they were trained by me to respond. They were taught to ignore other dogs, lets face it they didn't need other dogs to interact with as they had each other. You can't accuse dogs of being out of control when they respond instantly to every command given, so give it up.
Oh and fwiw I do know what it's like to have a dog you can't trust to interact with others off lead, my Boxer Dudley who broke his neck as a pup and missed out on all his socialisation was always on lead and harness but I ran 10 miles a day with him and kept out of other walkers way.
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