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04-06-2012, 11:26 AM
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Unfortunately a litter of mongrels is likely to attract undesirables anyway. Why would anyone who is clued in about dogs choose to support and line the pockets of an irresponsible breeder?

Why would I support irresponsible breeders when I could rescue one and support a much better cause?
You shouldn't, I'm referring to accidental litters not designer breeds.
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04-06-2012, 11:27 AM
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Possibly - but then I think that people are mad to pay hundreds or even thousands for certain pedigrees, knowing full well of the endemic health problems in those breeds.
You mean the way collies and mals can have health issues?

And they were bred for a type, mongrels aren't.
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04-06-2012, 11:27 AM
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The original stock though were mixes - mainly mals and to a much lesser extent huskies, but Eddie Harrison also used a collie twice - and before she started using mals, she was using GSD's. As far as I am concerned they are mongrels, and coming from me that is a compliment, not an insult. They are both beautiful boys, although to me neither of them can hold a candle to Ben's father, Hal.
All breeds were "mixed stock" originally -- what is your point?

If they are Siberian Huskies crossed with a Malamute they are cross breeds and not mongrels.
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04-06-2012, 11:28 AM
I think the fact is people will get offended over the implication that mongrels are worth less than pedigrees.
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04-06-2012, 11:31 AM
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What? I don't even know what you're referring to here. What I meant was that people will pay a lot of money on a dog regardless of it being mixed or a pedigree because they're living breathing creatures we can form emotional attachments to.
And thats what "pet breeders" and puppy farmers and all sorts have cottoned onto.
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04-06-2012, 11:33 AM
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I think the fact is people will get offended over the implication that mongrels are worth less than pedigrees.
My dog is worth a billion to me, doesnt mean anyone else would want to buy him off me for that price.
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04-06-2012, 11:35 AM
the problem with cross breeding is you dont know what your passing on to the pups from those two breeds, and a lot of these dogs end up in rescue homes due to the high maintence from where the buyer didnt know what sort of characteristics they were taking on.
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04-06-2012, 11:35 AM
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You mean the way collies and mals can have health issues?

And they were bred for a type, mongrels aren't.
Of course, I don't know of any pedigree that doesn't have health issues.

One must assume though that whereas Eddie did some things that I certainly did not approve of, overall it is well known that she always bred healthy dogs, so she must have done something right. Particularly in terms of HD, her dogs had good hips. Hal's hipscore was 6 on both sides when he was quite old, about 8. Huskies in particular are known to suffer from hip dysplasia and eye problems.
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04-06-2012, 11:38 AM
And I'm sorry but in financial terms they ARE worth less! No heart screening, no DNA tests, no hip scoring, no stud fee, no travelling back and forwards to meet stud...why would I pay them the same when they cant even keep their bitch from being mated never mind raising on premium foods, vet checks, socialisation etc etc
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04-06-2012, 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by LoobyLou663 View Post
the problem with cross breeding is you dont know what your passing on to the pups from those two breeds, and a lot of these dogs end up in rescue homes due to the high maintence from where the buyer didnt know what sort of characteristics they were taking on.
Unlike with pedigrees of course, where mother/son, father/daughter matings are not uncommon. Pedigree breeds such as the most popular breed of all - GSDs - with fallen haunches and dreadful hip dysplasia at a very young age. And yet people will pay hundreds even thousands for these dogs - KNOWING that they could well be buying a heap of trouble. To me this is far worse than taking pot luck with a crossbreed.
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