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20-04-2008, 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by mucky_pup View Post
Galty, can you tell me where these figures can be found and how they are recorded by the industry to track dogs?
I also am interested,Galty Dawm or Ian , in where you can find these figures from can you give us an answer please??

Originally Posted by galty View Post
Fact is its the NCC that record the number of dogs born and do the ear marking.

If you ring them up they will be glad to give you the details of the number greyhounds born in the past year.


http://www.nationalcoursingclub.org/
Ermm no I emailed them and they said they couldnt give me an answer it would take some time and Im still waiting - is this info only open to a select few?
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20-04-2008, 11:50 PM
gowan gowan gowan........Galty. Give us the numbers of puppies bred for 2006 and 2007.....save us the trouble of having to pay for it. Or is it a case of what Spot says, 'this info is only open to a select few'?
In any event whats the NCC still up and running for, now that coursing is illegal..........sounds all a bit dodgy to me!

BTW Galty...fact is the NGRC employ 11 earmarking stewards to do the earmarking on behalf of the NCC. So it appears the NGRC are subsidising the National Coursing Club............
How kind is that of them. Never mind WELFARE of the greyhounds, lets subsidise an organisation that lobbies for the Hunting ban to be reversed.
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01-05-2008, 02:20 AM
Nice to argue with you again Galty! I hadn't realised that this thread had carried on and just noticed so excuse the three-weeks-to-reply!

Good info about earmarking in the thread but just to clarify something - I was always under the impression that hounds were not earmarked until they were 12 weeks old? And they weren't registered until they are earmarked? I didn't realise that litters were registered at birth? I had one 8 month old grey pup who was earmarked but not registered? Just want to get my facts straight

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Hi Auntie wellcome to the forum.


Cant do the quote thing but
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Point 6 - Some greyhounds aren't suited to a home life? I keep hearing about these dogs who aren't suitable to be rehomed yet I've never met one. And if they do exist I suspect thats more down to lack of socialisation etc that they don't get to experience. QUOTE


There are a few like this as well you no, most trainers even if they try to rehome all their dogs will put these sort of dogs down, they will not risk greyhounds getting a bad name as pets to chance a viscious Greyhound beening rehomed with some one with little experiance.

Think the recent Emma Milne controversy proves Im right.
Emma Milne is an @rse.

Sorry galty but in my experience most trainers don't give a stuff what happens to the dog as long as someone will take it off their hands. But then that is the ones I come across simply because I get the contacts demanding I go pick up their dog. The ones who will contact the Scottish anti-racing campaign are the ones who really don't give a stuff because they are literally handing us ammo. Therefore I think I'm safer saying that is my experience of it and probably not the same as your run of the mill rescue because technically we're NOT a rescue, we're a campaign group. Although I have to say, I find when speaking to rescues, their experiences don't appear to be much different from mine.

I think its more the way some pounds and rescues operate where they will pts dogs who have less of a chance of a home. There aren't enough homes so the ones who are harder to home are first to pts.

I have one 'vicious' greyhound. Its actually fear aggression he has. With precautions (muzzling when outside, feeding apart from the others, being careful when he's left alone with the others) he manages well although there have been really hairy moments. I don't believe there is any houndthat can't be rehomed due to behaviour (except child vicious dogs - whcih I think most will agree that is rare in greyhounds). The only dog I've had through here that stood up to my non-dog-safe cat was a big lurcher boy who was homed down South and although he has to be muzzled when out, he lives a normal and healthy life.

But all of this comes back to whether or not the greyhounds psychological and physiological needs are considered when racing in order to sucessfully rehome them. I really believe they aren't
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13-05-2008, 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by galty View Post
Fact is its the NCC that record the number of dogs born and do the ear marking.

If you ring them up they will be glad to give you the details of the number greyhounds born in the past year.


http://www.nationalcoursingclub.org/
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I also am interested,Galty Dawm or Ian , in where you can find these figures from can you give us an answer please??



Ermm no I emailed them and they said they couldnt give me an answer it would take some time and Im still waiting - is this info only open to a select few?
And Im still waiting for the answer!

Maybe they just dont have a clue?
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13-05-2008, 03:07 PM
This is why they wont give you the numbers of puppies bred, puppies earmarked and pupies registered for racing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk:80/tol/...cle3908388.ece

Thousands of young greyhounds are either culled or sold off to the highest bidder regardless of their fate!
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13-05-2008, 03:19 PM
Hmmmmmmm intresting .
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14-05-2008, 09:46 PM
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Hmmmmmmm intresting .
Indeed! Im still waiting for a response, no either they dont actually know or want to keep it secret?
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14-05-2008, 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Aunty Amanda View Post
Nice to argue with you again Galty! I hadn't realised that this thread had carried on and just noticed so excuse the three-weeks-to-reply!

Good info about earmarking in the thread but just to clarify something - I was always under the impression that hounds were not earmarked until they were 12 weeks old? And they weren't registered until they are earmarked? I didn't realise that litters were registered at birth? I had one 8 month old grey pup who was earmarked but not registered? Just want to get my facts straight



Emma Milne is an @rse.
Sorry galty but in my experience most trainers don't give a stuff what happens to the dog as long as someone will take it off their hands. But then that is the ones I come across simply because I get the contacts demanding I go pick up their dog. The ones who will contact the Scottish anti-racing campaign are the ones who really don't give a stuff because they are literally handing us ammo. Therefore I think I'm safer saying that is my experience of it and probably not the same as your run of the mill rescue because technically we're NOT a rescue, we're a campaign group. Although I have to say, I find when speaking to rescues, their experiences don't appear to be much different from mine.

I think its more the way some pounds and rescues operate where they will pts dogs who have less of a chance of a home. There aren't enough homes so the ones who are harder to home are first to pts.

I have one 'vicious' greyhound. Its actually fear aggression he has. With precautions (muzzling when outside, feeding apart from the others, being careful when he's left alone with the others) he manages well although there have been really hairy moments. I don't believe there is any houndthat can't be rehomed due to behaviour (except child vicious dogs - whcih I think most will agree that is rare in greyhounds). The only dog I've had through here that stood up to my non-dog-safe cat was a big lurcher boy who was homed down South and although he has to be muzzled when out, he lives a normal and healthy life.

But all of this comes back to whether or not the greyhounds psychological and physiological needs are considered when racing in order to sucessfully rehome them. I really believe they aren't
I just had to say, no she isn't. Why was it so diffcult for people to see what she was actually saying in the article that provoked such controversy? Talk about over reacting. She was actually on the side of those who wish to see and end to greyhound racing and all this hoo ha over her article has done nothing but get away from that main issue and ensure that charities she is involved with suffer in the short term.
Honestly talk about knee jerk reactions...I don't think her article was that I think it was the hoo ha afterwards....plus a magazine this month full of people moaning...yawn.

And for the record, I am anti greyhound racing.
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14-05-2008, 10:43 PM
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I just had to say, no she isn't. Why was it so diffcult for people to see what she was actually saying in the article that provoked such controversy? Talk about over reacting. She was actually on the side of those who wish to see and end to greyhound racing and all this hoo ha over her article has done nothing but get away from that main issue and ensure that charities she is involved with suffer in the short term.
Honestly talk about knee jerk reactions...I don't think her article was that I think it was the hoo ha afterwards....plus a magazine this month full of people moaning...yawn.

And for the record, I am anti greyhound racing.

You said those famous two words "you think".

I also "think" - just different from you
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15-05-2008, 05:59 AM
Originally Posted by Aunty Amanda View Post
You said those famous two words "you think".

I also "think" - just different from you
She was already someone who was anti greyhound racing.She then saw a dog that had been savaged to death,she didn't blame the dog, she blamed the industry it had come from and made that blatantly clear. She also raised fair and relevant points about the breed and it would be irresponsible to brush those concerns about breed characteristics under the carpet and for people not to consider them seriously when rehoming one of these dogs. I would consider a rescue greyhound myself one day..but I would rather the industry it came from wasn't there...the point Emma Milne was making 'I think'.
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