All of the diseases known in dogs that are not known in the wild were created by show breeders. Sheesh bulldogs are mutations that can not even give birth without surgery, which means that people keep the mutation alive by doing c sections. So yes show breeders have created all of the diseases that they are testing for, because they feel guilty about what they are doing.

Mutations http://pets.wahl.com/public/uploads/...d_overview.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...7/Mops_555.jpg

Funny until the health problems set in

Nicky Ann...... sorry to say but you are talking the biggest load of nonsense I have heard in a long time.


You don`t get blind or deaf wolves??? ermmm how do you know, do you follow every wild pack of wolves around to see how many pups survive ??

Only show dogs get health issues .............

You put the ill health of the whole canine population on the show breeder

God knows where you have dredged up all this nonsense

Jackie, if you read this person's other contributions, she is either a troll or lives in a fantasy world!

Lots of statements that bear no weight when challenged with actual fact

I gathered that.......... probably best to ignore

Actually for certain breeds that are not working dogs, all the dogs in these breeds default back to show breeders, and most if not all pups in these breeds will have some show champ lines. Seriously are there field champ Pomeranians and dalmations? No these dogs were bred to have the show characteristics that they do, and that is all that they ever have done, is to have these characteristics. My breed the German Shorthair does as much varied things as any other breed and more than most so there are different lines. This just is not true of a Chinese Crested or Pug that just looks a certain way. Argue all you want, but both of these breeds have wolf DNA and thus are serious mutations of the parent species.

What actual fact? your post contained none. If I am wrong you can point it out.

Domestic dogs all have wolf ancestry so, therefore, all are, as you put it, serious mutations including the GSP who is very far removed from the looks and behaviour of its distant ancestor the wolf.

Let's face it, if dogs weren't so far removed, they would never have been domesticated.

I'm afraid you can't use the ancestry argument in favour or against any breed.

What you said makes no sense, because dogs were not domesticated. Wolves were domesticated and crossbred to create what we have now. Remember before domestication there were no dogs.

Badly worded perhaps, but, in essence, you can't say one breed of dog is a 'serious mutation' and not another.