LOL does he know you are telling us all he has a little sausage

Personaly, I have pointy teeth and grindy teeth so I eat meat
I love the taste and the texture

I think about it often but in many ways I dont see being veggie as being a whole lot more ethical, processing foods within a inch of their lives to make them taste a little like chicken

I feel it is more important to resect the animal and dont waste it and do your best to make sure it is ethicaly reared and treated
Its a dilema but my choise is to eat meat.

Something I have always wanted to ask meat eaters, would you still eat it if you had to kill it and skin it etc...? I have this theory that I couldn't do that and have no right therefore to eat meat, my dogs would, in the wild kill and eat meat so therefore they are given raw meat to eat and not fed a vegetarian diet.
I don't mean that nastily to meat eaters, each to their own

But why should I keep quiet about the fact Ive been veggie for mumblemumble years? Its nothing to be ashamed of is it? If people ask me I tell them – whats the problem? Ive never preached to anyone but if asked I tell them. Quite frankly I find it very patronising of you to say all us veggies do it for our own self satisfaction – who are you to judge people like that? Why do you care so strongly anyway?

Does that extend to dogs?

But Spot, Wishbone won't quite 'get it' because she was never a true vegetarian. If she didn't eat meat but then reverted back she'll automatically need to justify it to herself and her way of doing that will have been to say she was only doing it to be self righteous. Alot of people are vegetarian for this reason, but there are alot who are not.

Very interesting thread guys - thanks for taking part

I wish I could respond to all posts but I'd be here forever but here's a few points I want to make again:

People still eating cheese/milk products

Cheese is full of fat - and made from milk from cows who are given hormones to make them produce around 25 times the amount of milk they normally would! Also, because of the conditions they're kept in they get sick, pus on their udders and bacteria (ecoli) infested diarrhoea ends up in the milk. That's why they have to pasteurise it. But your still eating/drinking it!! Not to mention routine antibiotics etc.


Actually, a number of tests have shown that farmed fish is actually very low in Omega3/6. And... high in mercury and other pollutants such as PCBs!! I was eating fish a number of times a week thinking it's healthy.. how wrong was I!!

You're better off getting your Omega oils from things like linseeds/nuts/beans etc.

Also re your point about poultry - it's probably far worse than red meat. Anitibiotics/steroids/hormones etc etc





Unless the farm belongs to royalty, they almost certainly still use things like organophosphate dips. The thing is farmers are brainwashed like doctors - they think much of this stuff is ok. And remb it's a business - they need to make money and will use whatever shortcuts _they_ think are reasonble/needed.

The only way you'd be sure is if you farmed it yourselves.



Spooky! I have special powers

Re your point about killing to eat - I personally have no probs with that so long it is truly done humanely. My main gripe is the cruelty they endure from birth to death, and the health risks to us because of the way animals are farmed (growth hormones/antibiotics etc).



Actually, our digestive systems are geared more towards eating a plant based diet than a meat based one. We can still digest meat but it's much more difficult for our bodies to do so. (This is based on science comparing digestive systems of carnivores and herbivores - and how food is digested in them.)



They wouldn't disappear but would yes be drastically cut down. They are unnaturally in too high a number anyway (as they are being f a r m e d). And would it be a good idea if the numbers reduced? YES, a big fat YES. Farmed animals produce more carbon dioxide than cars!

So you'd be saving the planet too

Been a Vegan since I was 15 and never looked back ...wouldn't dream of ever eating meat or animal products again

But Spot, Wishbone won't quite 'get it' because she was never a true vegetarian. If she didn't eat meat but then reverted back she'll automatically need to justify it to herself and her way of doing that will have been to say she was only doing it to be self righteous. Alot of people are vegetarian for this reason, but there are alot who are not.

Don't get me wrong... I will never try to convert people from veggie/vegan to being a meat eater.

However, I just think it's very simplistic to say we should all stop eating meat and the farmers and other people involved in the farming/meat industry will have to just sort it out themselves. If someone has farmed animals for 40 years, they can't just go and grow corn or wheat, it doesn't work like that!

And, lets face it - getting rid of all the cattle etc won't do a darned thing to help climate change. Stopping people flying all over the world unnecessarily, stopping places like China etc building new coal power stations, getting people out of their private cars etc would have more of a impact.

eh???? why not? its not a religion

i didnt eat meat for 15years (fish either) so was i never a 'true veggie'
and no Pidge i dont need to justify anything to myself...if i fancy something i will eat it,if i dont i wont.