I've always wondered that. I don't want to fight with my dog for leadership. And I certainly don't want him trying to over throw me every time I have a seizure!

Why have you put your location as Thailand when you are posting from the UK?

What? A troll? In school holidays?
Well I`m......


somewhat unsurprised actually.
If it talks like a troll and walks like a troll it probably lives under a bridge.

Yes and he tries to touch them less also no? I have used the philosophy of rules boundaries and limitations more to establish a leadership role and never touched them. Our Bangkaew is also a primitive breed and the last thing one would want is to give violence as an example! Saying that psychological dominance is good for him as you give him an inch he will take a mile.

Do you not find Dumbar very passive aggressive? He seems a bit resentful to me but he is maybe just shy. I do like his philosophy of talking to the dog though as I swear the Bangkaew understands! You can tell him to go and get the young dog and he will tackle him and herd him back and he certainly has never been trained to do it.

[QUOTE]Cesar Milan holds no formal canine qualifications. I have watched every episode of The Dog Whisperer, then again with the sound down, and listened to every episode with no visual and only a verbal commentary. ( If I am going to judge someones training techniques I want to make sure I am fully informed.)[/QUOTE

I have a Physics degree from St. Andrews but I am not interested in qualifications. I think Cesar knows what he is talking about.
Have you seen the documentary about Inuit dogs? They say they are different from huskies. The Bangkaew used to bite and all we have done is exercise him properly and give him a lot of love and he totally respects us now. this is a breed that Thais freeze when they see but he can go anywhere and is now perfect.
This is exactly the point I have probably not been putting across very well. People who are at the stage of teaching 20 commands already have a dog that thinks they are the pack leader/handler and they more than likely already have calm assertive energy. So they are doing everything Cesar says. Cesar works with people who are nowhere near that. After they have worked with Cesar they are then ready to do all the Clicker training they want but if they do not have a calm assertive energy, they are not really going to be in control IMO. Do other popular trainers emphasize the calm assertive leader bit?

. I have a Virtual Private Network/UK IP address. Do you want me to use my local IP address when I am on this site mum?

Do not tell your husband but your dog knows who wears the trousers! Or probably just you have a more assertive energy when you are with the dog.
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When out a run and I see him go to roll in something I call him and he immediately comes because he thinks it is fun to be needed. He thinks he is working on the run, guarding the truck! If I call him in the apartment he only comes if he thinks I need him, which is never really the case.

[/QUOTE]yet in at least one episode CM tells someone they shouldn't reward their dog when the dog is being good. I disagree with that, how is the dog supposed to learn the right behaviour if the behaviour is never acknowledged?
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Cesar says only reward calm submissive energy/state so maybe he said do not reward excitement.

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If I try to explain clicker training in psychological terms I get all muddled so I'm not going to go there Basically the click says to the dog "that's exactly the behaviour I want, there's a reward coming". You can do the same with a word, a whistle, a hand signal, a vibrating collar, a flashlight, pretty much anything really.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree and think it is a great tool

TBH if it makes you happy to have such an ignorant view of why your dog behaves as he does then I don't have a problem with it.

If you really are in Thailand then I don't suppose you can do too much more harm to the dogs than would be their lot anyway.

OTOH how brilliant would it be if you could actually understand what is really happening and try and pass that knowledge on to other people in your country----if indeed it is your country? Shame you are unable to do that.

I rehomed a couple of dogs from Thailand recently so I have a good idea of the usual conditions they live in.

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I have sometimes thought about that. In my case the dog when a puppy probably thought I was no leader of him because I can not jump up and make him stop doing something. I was able to get the message across with energy though. I think dogs are different to wolves , when Cesar's pitbull Daddy was 16 he still was pack leader. I think what dogs grow up thinking stays with them. My dog was taught a lesson by a few dogs when he was a puppy and, although he could probably give them a lesson now, he still gives them a wide berth now. I think my dog loves me too much to want to take over.

I will try and do a video too. I am not much of a photographer and it is me who goes through the jungle. My wife goes to the beach and posts photographs to a [a social network] page she made for them though!

Most new people say hello, post photos of their dogs, chat, get to know us....
Then there are the attention seekers.