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08-07-2009, 02:08 PM
Yes, I agree that people that work should be allowed to have dogs, but do need to limit how long at a time they are left. I also often suggest doggy day care once a dog is big enough to be around strange dogs.

Dogs and children? I think it is hilarious that when our daughter was raising puppies for a dog guide school, she was allowed to take them to her office. The city even put it on their website as proof of their accessabilty. Now she has a son, he must be left at day care.
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08-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Two points:

1. There is NO point hounding the OP. She already has the puppy so telling her she shouldn't get one if she works full time will do nothing. She needs constructive advise on how to make it work.

2. This goes back to the same old argument. Realistically with all the puppies being born into this world, if they weren't put into full-time working homes then I should imagine 60% of them will be either euthanised or put into rescue centres. In this day and age 7/10 households have both adults out at work full time. As long as the dog has everything he needs when they are there (and when they're not for that matter) then I think it's fine.

I do think 8 weeks is too young to leeave for four hour periods, twice a day, five days a week BUT all they can do now is come up with a way that suits them and the puppy.

ETA: the make better sense of it all!!! Shocking grammar there Pigeon!!
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08-07-2009, 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
Two points:

1. There is NO point hounding the OP. She already has the puppy so telling her she shouldn't get one if she works full time will do nothing. She needs constructive advise on how to make it work.

2. This goes back to the same old argument. Realistically with all the puppies being born into this world, if they weren't put into full-time working homes then I should imagine 60% of them will be either euthanised or put into rescue centres. In this day an age 7/10 households have both adults out at work full time. As long as the dog has everything he needs when they are there (and when they're not for that matter) then I think it's fine.

I do think 8 weeks is too long for four hour periods, twice a day, five days a week BUT all they can do now is come up with a way that suits them and the dog as it's already done.

Not sure where anyone has done any hounding Pidge??

The OP came and asked if tough love ( leaving a puppy to cry) and is worried over the amount of time pup is left alone all day.

It is not hounding to give an honest answer , would you rather we say, yes its fine, an 8wk old pup is fine to leave for a full day on its own, and ok to be left to cry!!

The OP did not come asking for alternatives to her situation, she asked if we thought it was OK to carry on as she is.

And as the thread has gone, most dont think it is!!!
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08-07-2009, 03:25 PM
No, you're right. Hounding is not the right word. I apologise.
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08-07-2009, 03:30 PM
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Not sure where anyone has done any hounding Pidge??

The OP came and asked if tough love ( leaving a puppy to cry) and is worried over the amount of time pup is left alone all day.

It is not hounding to give an honest answer , would you rather we say, yes its fine, an 8wk old pup is fine to leave for a full day on its own, and ok to be left to cry!!

The OP did not come asking for alternatives to her situation, she asked if we thought it was OK to carry on as she is.

And as the thread has gone, most dont think it is!!!
Exactly.
There is also the point that other people planning a pup may be in a similar position so it warrants putting up (yet) again. There is one of these threads appearing far too often on here and other boards, so the more we can do to prevent dogs in rescue the better.

Tried too give yer reps for this and previous post but must be too soon....
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08-07-2009, 05:24 PM
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And, Vicktory, although your situation wasn't ideal, I think there is a BIG difference between an 8 week old pup being left and a 14 week old pup being left. Even 14 weeks isn't ideal but 8 weeks
I know it is much harder with a younger pup - which is why I pointed it out in my own post. Unfortunately, there is an awful lot of people on here that are very quick to judge but don't offer a lot of help. I know how it made me feel when I come for advice and got judged instead. Both myself and the OP were told to get rid of the dogs. Not terribly helpful, I am sure you will agree.

Oh and my situation is ideal for all of us. It is working out beautifully.
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08-07-2009, 05:29 PM
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I know it is much harder with a younger pup - which is why I pointed it out in my own post. Unfortunately, there is an awful lot of people on here that are very quick to judge but don't offer a lot of help. I know how it made feel when I come for advice and got judged instead.

Oh and my situation was ideal for all of us. It is working out beautifully.
Well, I don't really see that anyone has "judged" - I (and others) have pointed out that the pup is alone far too long and suggested ways of the puppy spending less time alone (taking some holiday from work, getting a pet sitter and other suggestions). The thing is, the OP asked if the situation was okay and basically, it's not!

You say that your situation was "ideal" for you but was it "ideal" for your dog On Dogsey, we will always consider the welfare of the dogs discussed, rather than the humans who chose to own them
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08-07-2009, 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by CheekyChihuahua View Post
Well, I don't really see that anyone has "judged" - I (and others) have pointed out that the pup is alone far too long and suggested ways of the puppy spending less time alone (taking some holiday from work, getting a pet sitter and other suggestions). The thing is, the OP asked if the situation was okay and basically, it's not!

You say that your situation was "ideal" for you but was it "ideal" for your dog On Dogsey, we will always consider the welfare of the dogs discussed, rather than the humans who chose to own them
I could go back and find many judgemental posts on here and it says quite a lot about you that you can't see that. However, I am loath to hijack the OP's thread any further and so we will have to agree to disagree.

My situation with Ruby is ideal for her as well as us humans. As I have already said, she is thriving. Contented, happy, healthy, learning good doggy behaviour, well socialised...I could go on. My dog is always my first priority when considering her care.
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08-07-2009, 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by viktory View Post
I could go back and find many judgemental posts on here and it says quite a lot about you that you can't see that. However, I am loath to hijack the OP's thread any further and so we will have to agree to disagree.

My situation with Ruby is ideal for her as well as us humans. As I have already said, she is thriving. Contented, happy, healthy, learning good doggy behaviour, well socialised...I could go on. My dog is always my first priority when considering her care.

I think if you are making statements that people are being "judgmental" you should back it up with quoting the judgmental posts You can't really go saying that "it says a lot about you" (as in me ) when you can't even be bothered to find the judgmental posts "that say alot about you(me)"
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08-07-2009, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by viktory View Post
I could go back and find many judgemental posts on here and it says quite a lot about you that you can't see that. However, I am loath to hijack the OP's thread any further and so we will have to agree to disagree.

My situation with Ruby is ideal for her as well as us humans. As I have already said, she is thriving. Contented, happy, healthy, learning good doggy behaviour, well socialised...I could go on. My dog is always my first priority when considering her care.
Why does the word judgmental keep cropping up , in these sort of situations.

I am sure you can find many a threads in the archives on this matter.. as sadly it comes up time and time again.

It is not good for a puppy to be left for hrs and hrs during the day...

Work commitments may dictate otherwise, but puppies need human company and direction..being left for the working day sometimes confined to crates for up to 7/8 hrs a day, is not expectable in most people's book... if you feel it works for you, then so be it, but dont expect others to agree and dont accuse their opinions as judgmental, just because they dont fit in with the way you do it.
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