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27-05-2011, 11:38 AM
I never managed to get to the police station as there was a problem, but I'm going up after three today, but I've spoken to the vets again today, and they have been so understanding about it all, but I also spoke to some people in the park where it happened, they were doing something and had a loose lab, so I warned them to keep an eye out, and they may have made everything a lot easier, they told me that (unbeknown to me) there was a warning in the local herald, warning people about a recent rise in dog attacks, I'm gonna see if I can find it online, I'm also wondering whether the vets will be even more helpful, and pass a contact number for me onto other people who have had this happen so I can see whether its the same dog, as I'm wondering whether if only one other dog that was attacked was attacked by the same one that everything will be easier, as they can also go to the police if they haven't already done so, and they may of noticed something, or know something about the people I don't which may make finding the owners easier too, it may be a one in a million chance, but I'm gonna see whether the vets will help.

Originally Posted by Malka View Post
Oh poor Diesel - and all the other dogs that keep getting attacked. Those photos made me weep and also made me realise how lucky in that my Vet came out for Pereg to clean and staple her wound when she was attacked in our front yard.

The Local Authority would not do anything about the attack on her but the dog catchers were out in force just a few days ago because my non-working non-social worker [who has never followed up a message I have left on her answerphone, let alone pop in when she is on the Moshav], apparently said she had been bitten by a dog down the road "somewhere".

I am not sure how many, if any, of the stray dumped dogs they managed to collect, but the "Quarantine, Rabies Alert" signs are up again at the entrance to the Moshav, and woe betides anyone here who's dog is picked up for running loose and with no record of a rabies shot.

Please give Diesel special "get well soon" doggy huggles from me.
Thank you, I will, what a shame that no-one helped you in dealing with the dog that bit yours, espcially in your own garden

Originally Posted by Jugsmalone View Post
poor Diseal and you. It must have been a very scary experience for you both. please report to the police even if they dont do anything they will at least have it on record should the same dog attack another dog.

Hugs to you both and a speedy recovery for Diseal.
Thank you, I'm really hoping that one of the other dog attacks are from the same one, it probally sounds like I want other dogs attacked, but its not that, I just want something to be done, and if a dogs already been attacked and the owners are willing to do something it may mean that the owners of this dog actually do something, instead of leaving it off lead and unmuzzled.

Originally Posted by SLB View Post
It's people who make me nervous of staffies. I love the breed but you can never tell these days and it's a shame idiots are allowed to get ahold of these dogs and ruin it for everyone.


They just walked away and left their dog tearing into yours? How ridiculous...

I can't say how bad I feel for you and how sorry I am that you had to go through this.. I hope Diesel is OK soon - poor boy, he'll get over it quicker than you will.

I'd carry some spray round with you, it's ridiculous that we have to protect our dogs from other dogs - they should all be socialised. BTW - if you'd have put your finger behind the top of the jaw - you know where wisdom teeth grow - that should've loosened the grip more..I've done this when the dogs wouldn't let go of a toy...

Hope he gets better soon and the woofs send him slobbery kisses - and you too x x x
I must say I do love Staffies, I use to volunteer at a rescue, and the ones around here generally are lovely or the people keep them away from other dogs, but I'm so annoyed with the owners of this one, I've never seen it before, and hope that I don't see it again, unless they want to cough up the bill. I might carry something with me from now on, more incase I see them again, as I really don't want any of my dogs hurt because of some stupid owners again.

Originally Posted by sarah1983 View Post
Poor Diesel I hope he recovers quickly and with no lasting effects.

I do agree with Smokeybear, get on to the police and get the incident reported! The attitude of "well they probably won't do anything" doesn't help anyone, reporting the attack could well stop it happening again.
I was meant to be going up there just now, but because of a problem I'm going up at 3, but fingers crossed they will do something, I'm also hoping the vets will ask the any other dog owners that they have registered with them whose dogs have been attacked to report it too, espcailly if its the same one.

Originally Posted by werewolf View Post
Just caught this. I am so sorry to read of what you all went through. Thank God Diesel was wearing that collar. I think you were very brave.

Please pursue contacting the police as there must be something that can be done xxxx All the best, hugs to Diesel and keep us posted xxxxxx
Thank you, after I've gone up there I'll let you know what they say

Originally Posted by scorpio View Post
I'm so sorry that you and your darling boy have also been at the receiving end of an out of control and dangerous dog. I do hope that he makes a good recovery, poor little chap.

I see you're in South Oxfordshire, if your police ar Thames Valley then you should be in luck, as I was, in pursuing the owners and not only getting your vets bills paid, they will also serve the owners with an order that the dog has to be on a lead &/or muzzled when in a public place.

Henry had to have an operation following the first attack, we never thought we would get any money or an apology, well we never did get the apology, but his vets bills and the loss of the shows I had entered were paid in full...doesn't compensate for the trauma we and our dogs have to go through though.

If you are in the TVP area, please let me know and I will give you the details of my contact here in Milton Keynes, she will be able to put you in touch with whoever you need to report it to xx
Thank you, I'll PM you after writing this, yes I am in the TVP area, and I'm glad to see that they have helped you so much, I really hope that I'm able to have the same, like I said others have apparently had their dogs attacked, so maybe if I can find others whose this dog has attacked and we all get our vet bills paid for they really will listen.

Originally Posted by spockky boy View Post
Very sorry to hear about the attack.... i hope the police can do something - maybe other eye witnesses could come forwards?!

Hugs for Diesel!
I'm not sure that there was any other eye witnesses it was around the time that school was out, but the nursery in the park hadn't finished and we were at the other end, so the park was empty from what I could tell, but on the posters I might ask if anyone saw what happened.

Originally Posted by kat14778 View Post
sending big hugs to you and diesel it scares me to walk my dogs now with all the attacks going on my sbt is walked on a lead as he is not keen on every dog he meets since being attacked many times himself i also feel for you trying to get your dog free of that dogs jaw my two have had a nasty fight and the only way i could get him to realease was to throw water in his face luckily he didnt leave any wounds i do hope your successful in getting these people to be more responsible and the police take note
Thank you, I really hope that I am, I mean its too late to stop Diesel being hurt, but hopefully it will stop others being hurt, all I can think of is if he was a small dog, what chances would he of had in that situation?

Originally Posted by Brundog View Post
How awful for poor diesel and what a useless owner not only does she believe the Staffies have lock jaw myth but she doesn't even bother to try to help. It's people like that that bring the shame on thR breed.

I agree you should report it, they shouldn't get away with it .

Gentle hugs for diesel
Thank you, I agree, I wanted to scream at her and ask her why she owns a Staffy then if she believes that, and more importanly if she believes that and he's aggressive why give him the chance to allow it to happen, but once I had my dogs with me it was too late to say anything, so I went straight to the vets.

Originally Posted by madmare View Post
Gentle hugs winging thier way to poor Diesel and Kyiro and lily send licks, kisses and slobbers.
I hope he feels better soon and heals without any problems.
Thank you, Diesel isn't showing any pain at the moment, but I'm sure that he must be in some, apart from last night you wouldn't know that he's actually been hurt, and I think him acting like that has kept me calmer then I would of been, but I really hope he heals soon, even for the simple reason that then he could run off lead, thats one of his main pleasures in life, and thats been taken away from him at the time being.

Originally Posted by Tupacs2legs View Post
'why do dogs always fight'

poor poor Diesel and u

{{hugs}} and woos from here xxx
Thank you, what he said then has stayed in my mind, the always, its what makes me sure that its not the first time, and with owners that stand around while this is happening, if it happens again, I really wouldn't be surprised if he manages to kill a small dog, espcailly when theres often little old ladies with small dogs, it doesn't bear thinking about.
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27-05-2011, 12:09 PM
how awful for you and the poor woofs. Hope Diesal carries on getting better...sending healing hugs your way...

Hope everything goes ok with the Police...I have my fingers crossed for you
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27-05-2011, 01:31 PM
So sorry to hear about this-how awful for you and what selfish, inconsiderate owners. Same with me when Cherry got attacked by the Rottweiller on the heath but I made such a scene calling for somone to call the police that the owner stopped moving away with his dog and came with me to the vets to pay the bill. This was because this dog had bitten before (although he awore to me it hadn't) and he was concerned re a report to the dog warden. He kept telling me it wasn't his dog and he was walking it for his Mum who had breast cancer. I am afraid I said I don't care about that-you are the one walking it and you are responsible. I wasn't going to let him get away with it-I was fuming.

We have had a lot of issues with Staffies and now I carry a Helix personal alarm and a pet corrector spray. The pet corrector spray I use in situations where people let their dogs charge at Cherry from one end of the field to another and she is on-lead, and the Helix alarm spray I use if the dog looked aggressive and I thought it was going to bite her. I will not let either of my dogs be put in the situation again where they get attacked by other dogs.

The Helix alarm emits an extremely loud piercing noise, an obnoxious smell and would mark the dog (or owner should you so wish!) for a week. It is perfectly legal too. I got mine in our local stationery shop but they probably sell them on e-bay. It is only small and I hope I never have to use it but I want to be prepared.

You don't always have time to get the alarm out-last time Cherry had a dog go for her it was in an area in Norwich where there are signs displayed every few hundred yards saying "All dogs MUST be on leads" and we just turned the corner and an off-lead Bearded Collie flew at her. I am afraid it met my foot first as she had just been released from Newmarket Animal Health Trust after an eye operation and was vulnerable. I had to kick it a few times as it came back for more. I really had a go at the owner for letting her aggressive dog fly at Cherry when all dogs were supposed to be on-lead anyway-some people are absolute "bottomholes" to put it politely!

However, should this dog had a hold on Cherry I would then have got the alarm out and used it near the dog's ears and nose to make it let go. I owuld certainly not want to get my hands anywhere near a fighting dog-especially not a Staffy with their jaw-power.
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27-05-2011, 01:45 PM
Just checked-none on e-bay but if you go on to the internet and Helix website it is called a "Triple action areosol alarm"
I think this is much better than one that just emits a noise as I accidentally set mine off in my pocket once and you had to experience the smell to believe it! Dogs obviously have a much better sense of smell than us too.
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27-05-2011, 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear View Post
Right I am going to sound harsh here but ALL the time people take the defeatist attitude of "I don't think they will be able to do anything" NOTHING will get done!

People ARE prosecuted for dog on dog attacks whatever may be said about it here or anywhere else; so report it to both the police and dog warden.

Insist on an incident number; and pursue it.

I am not sure if everyone is aware of the organisation Justice for Dogs? It is worth EVERYONE joining for legal advice and help is at the end of the phone.

http://www.collienet.com/justicefordogs.htm

Why should ANYONE be at risk from this sort of behaviour? There is no need to and if this had happened to me, there would be no avenue I would not pursue.




WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



My brother's dog was attacked in a very similar way to Diesel; ghastly. The owners of the other dog vanished after they finally managed to haul their dog away and my bro and his girlfriend were too shocked to ask for their details.

But I drove them mad to phone the police and they then found out there is an investigation going on into several vicious dogs in that particular park.


If people do not report these attacks then the ba$tards who let their dogs attack get away with it!



To the OP - how horrible for you and your dog, ghastly, ghastly experience. Sending all best wishes to you both!
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27-05-2011, 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear View Post
A caveat

If you are unable to pull dog away by the wheelbarrow method (pick up hind legs) the next best thing is to cut off the air supply of the offending dog by making a lead into a slip lead (end of lead through handle) and putting it round the dog's neck (before you have put the end through the loop) and pulling upwards. (This is not advisable with very large dogs as it is too difficult or VERY aggressive dogs which may then redirect their aggression onto you).

I will remember this suggestion and am passing it on to my brother as something to use as a last resort. I know that when his Labrador was recently attacked he was frantic because even with three grown men trying to pull the Staffie off, it didn't work.
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27-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Kerryowner View Post
We have had a lot of issues with Staffies and now I carry a Helix personal alarm and a pet corrector spray. The pet corrector spray I use in situations where people let their dogs charge at Cherry from one end of the field to another and she is on-lead, and the Helix alarm spray I use if the dog looked aggressive and I thought it was going to bite her. I will not let either of my dogs be put in the situation again where they get attacked by other dogs.

The Helix alarm emits an extremely loud piercing noise, an obnoxious smell and would mark the dog (or owner should you so wish!) for a week. It is perfectly legal too. I got mine in our local stationery shop but they probably sell them on e-bay. It is only small and I hope I never have to use it but I want to be prepared.



Thanks for this, am going to get one of these alarms.
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27-05-2011, 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by TabithaJ View Post
I will remember this suggestion and am passing it on to my brother as something to use as a last resort. I know that when his Labrador was recently attacked he was frantic because even with three grown men trying to pull the Staffie off, it didn't work.
I used the leash method SB describes to get a Staffie off Rupert. It worked extremely well and if you carry a spare leash with you you can also use it to tie the dog up if there's no owner with it or the owner is incapable of holding on to the dog. My only concern would be the dog swinging round and latching on to you which is why I'd only use it as a last resort.

I've also used a gate, slammed it repeatedly into the attacking dogs ribs and when it finally let go closed it with me and Wolf on one side and the other dog the other. Poor Wolfie never attempted to fight back, just screamed and screamed.
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27-05-2011, 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Stumpywop View Post
...Definitely put posters up everywhere in that area with a note below stating what dog did this to Diesel.

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Yes, people around my area have done this a few times when there have been dog on dog attacks that were pretty bad, with the attacked dog needing stitches and vet treatment.

And contact the police and the dog warden.

Poor Diesel, he looks like such a lovely boy. My dog also got jumped on today, whilst on lead, by a standard poodle, who charged across to us, but that's another story.

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27-05-2011, 03:01 PM
By the way, I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but no dog has a "lock jaw" - they just have lots of muscle strength in their jaw and hang on, ever so much - so you certainly can get them off, but it's just very hard to do so and without damaging the other dog.

What you can try, is to get the collar if they have one on, and just twist it and twist it - either the dog will let go, or it will end up unconscious and you can then get the dog off. Very unpleasant to have to contemplate doing, though, and you do have to be careful of your own safety.

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ETA: Oops, I see Brundog has mentioned about the lock jaw myth!
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