I doubt he was stood there having a glass of Pimms and spilt some whilst wrangling a so called red zoner [ sic ] on the end of his dreadful illusion collar or prong or choker...


It comes from experienced people knowing that what he does is vile, cruel, and absolutely unnecessary.

It`s also illegal to do that in UK as the moment there is tension on the lead it becomes towing which is considered to be cruelty.

The opinion of the experienced is valid, it`s the opinion of those who don`t have the experience to know what they are talking about which are not valid. Becky is experienced, she has to be, not only as an owner of multiple dogs but as a groomer for whom being able to read dogs is the difference between being bitten or not.

How many times has Milan been bitten now due to his inability to read dogs` calming signals, [ while the dogs are trying to convey their pain or discomfort which he himself causes in the first place imo...], and because he has no apparent realisation of medical or diestry causes for aggression and other issues ? .....

It is true.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4977324.stm


It has since reached settlement but the figure has not been made public at this time.

No more than severely aggressive dogs which have been rehabbed without being subjected to his methods, if anything I`d say far more have been saved by people using non-confrontational non-punitive methods.

Gawd no, they would have been through enough already without him being inflicted on them as well

Well put. I regularly handle horses, just with a gentle touch and kind voice, as do most people who handle horse, if I did the CM hissing and jabbing I`d just end up with dust in my eye`s as they bolted off for it, and I would`nt stand a hope in hell of alpha rolling them, I`d just hope they would knock me out quickly before the pain of too many broken bones made my eyes leak if I were stupid enough to try it on them

Exactly..but it seem the smaller the animal the harsher the methods will be used ........by some

ClaireandDaisy : PLEASE don't blame me for my husband's actions. I said at the time of stating this, that I was bally furious with the man, and actually, he has at last admitted that physical violence with dogs does not work.

Castigate me for my actions all you want, that's fair, but please do not expect me to responsible for hubby's ... that's totally unfair !

This thread is about whether or not Cesar is improving, not about other people's methods.

That's a good point ClaireandDaisy about horses ... dogs and horses in that order are my passion in life! With the greatest respect, horses are very different animals from dogs. They are herbivorous "flight" animals, dogs are not. Horses, as you rightly say, would not respond at all well to being pinned ... were it possible to achieve such a feat !

All horsey people have heard of Monty Roberts and his method of "joining up" rather than "breaking in" a horse. Like everyone else who saw him for the first time, and read his book, I was truly amazed and fascinated by the man. I couldn't wait to apply some of his handling techniques to my horse ... and they worked! But I don't think that Jindo would have appreciated Cesar blowing up his nose, or would have been at all impressed by him turning and walking away in the hopes that piqued his curiosity into following him ! (Sorry to all Monty Roberts fans, this is a VERY simplistic description, but this thread is about CM, not MR !).