Malady please feel free to start another thread about the pros and cons of neutering before and after adolesence, that's a whole other debate in it'self.

What I'm trying to explain on this thread is there is no difference between neutering a pup at 12 weeks -early neutering, to the standard age of neutering at 6 months or so, and to point out that it has been proven to be safer and kinder,

Yes I agree it's a huge debate and I went through it all prior to having my little girl done.

Anne, that's great that you say it's proven to be safer and kinder but how do you know that...not questioning your intelligence....I would love to have some written clinical data to show to friends here in Oz who have the same dilema! Thanks.

It has only been 'Proven'..........in Your Opinion !

I understand [ and absolutely agree with ] what you are trying to get across fwiw :smt001

Its getting toward bed time for me now but tomorrow I will do a more thorough search for the info I have found before on longterm effects and comparative studies on longevity [ I can recall an average of two years more life expectancy in bitches spayed young being mentioned in at least one, an AVMA study I think off-hand ], but I don`t have it to hand at this moment so I hope tomorrow will do :smt001 ]

Most Reputable breeders in Oz already advocate early spaying.

I speak to dozens of the top breeders of many breeds in Oz who don't let pups go until they are done.

Wonderful!

No-one can then argue with the facts! (let's hope anyway!)

Goonight to all those in the UK....I envy you - no paralysis ticks! They scare me to death!

I so wish that was true over here



Hobbit have a look at the clinical studies on the links posted

Hi Maddy

Yes but in QLD it's illegal to spay before 12 weeks! I had thought of travelling to NSW but hubby complained more about the damn dog!!!

The breeder I bought my dog off said she would much prefer it, as it helps to stop so many people breeding willy nilly!

oops sorry Malady.......I've got no excuse it's not nightime here......it's lunchtime!

ISSUES REGARDING CASTRATION IN DOGS
Politically correct conventional wisdom is not necessarily biologically correct. Also, old wives tales regarding testicles and behavioral matters are often just that.
The only true justifications for castrating dogs are 1) aggressive behavior toward other dogs in the same household, and 2) perianal adenoma in old dogs.
Aggression to other dogs in situations outside the house is pretty normal dog behavior. Appropriate behavior. Since your dog will be on lead or inside a secure fence at all times, there should be no problem with dogs outside your household. However, if male house mates fight, and both need to stay with you, castration of one or both may solve the aggression problems. If you fault your dog for being aggressive to acquaintances while being walked on lead, you should not. He is guarding you. That simple. Honorable behavior. If you fault your dog for aggression in a 'dog park' where he is running free, or on the beach, or in the woods, well shame on you; you're the one at fault for risking his life in such an uncontrolled situation. Dogs that can manage such encounters without aggression are fine, but you cannot automatically expect a dog to have friendly relations with animals from outside his own 'pack'. It goes against his whole evolution.
Perianal adenomas, benign but messy tumors in old dogs may be treated by castration.
In terms of your dog's health, two overriding concerns are present. Castration at an early age will cause the dog to become overly tall, as the growth plates in the long bones will not close at the appropriate time; additionally, the dog will lack breadth of chest. The combination of these two factors sets the stage for your dog to have painful orthopedic problems. The OFA has published articles on this subject. An early age means below 1 year in small and medium sized dogs, and below 2 to 2.5 years in large and giant breeds.
The statement that your dog will not automatically gain weight is rubbish. Removing sexual hormones will change his metabolism and make your dog more sluggish, resulting almost inevitably in weight gain. Also, muscle tone will decline after castration, and the classic result of this is a fat dog in poor muscle tone that ends up having a cruciate ligament rupture in the knee. Can you avoid the consequences to weight and condition? Sure in the ideal world it's possible, but in the real world, the overwhelming proportion of owners do not succeed in this endeavor.
The second concern regarding your dog's health is highly malignant prostate cancer. Virtually all malignant prostatic tumors in dogs occur in castrated dogs. Castrating your dog puts him at risk for one of the worst cancers he can get. While you remove the very slight risk of testicular cancer in castrated dogs, that's a small matter; the incidence of testicular cancer is so minimal. Also, almost all testicular cancers in dogs are benign. If we find a testicular tumor, we normally remove the testicle with the mass and leave the remaining one intact. The relative incidence and severity of the tumors of the prostate relative to tumors of the testicle makes the decision to keep your dog intact a virtual no-brainer. The information on the incidence prostatic malignancies was obtained through a very large study of the records at veterinary colleges. These findings have been published for several years.*
Infection or inflammation of the prostate may occur in intact male dogs that are chronically exposed to bitches in heat. These are often worrisome to owners who seem to confuse prostatitis with the more serious prostate cancer. Prostatic infections are easily treated, and not, per se, a reason for castration.
So, the bottom line is:
1. Never castrate your dog because it is Politically Correct
2. Only castrate your dog if his home life is at risk due to dog-to-dog
aggression, or if, at the age of 11 years or so, he develops a perianal adenoma.

i googled early castration and this was what i found,im sorry but id rather he has all his bits xxzbxx