Now you can understand why some of us are a little confued with your "irony" as in the post above it is not said with any form of "tonge in cheeck"

Yet now after a litter banter from Dawn and myself, you have decided the above was done in "jest/irony...

I get it now!!!!!!!!

I think somehow i missed this in the thread,
that is sad and another CM casualty apparently.
Benmcfuzzylugs, what did you say to the owners?

Wys
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Sorry Jackbox, just for your benefit, I should have said :

I disagree with your explanation Mish. The dog's eyes are "RED" with rage. I had never ever seen such rage and sheer desire to kill in a dog before. It is like he was rabid.



Off to work now.

I`ve seen an angry dog about to attack. The blood vessels in the eyes don`t swell and make the eyes look red. The eyes go `hard` and the pupils dilate.
Gnasher you really don`t like letting reality get in the way of a good argument, do you?

My take on this is that with respect, CM should not make such obvious, bad "mistakes" on tv when he is supposed to be the "guru" of dog rehab...

In his position, he should not be making such bad, bad mistakes.

Wys
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Yes, the same thing is happening with some of the shock collar videos - some have even been doctored and returned, with the yelping or cowering bits deleted. I think that says it all

However, there is software you can get which enables you to keep the video even if it is deleted! although I don't know anyone who has done this for the CM really bad videos...

Wys
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I'd agree that dogs won't be the same for CM as for their owners if they have to use the more extreme methods.
One thing we know as trainers is that we have to tailor methods to them, that they can both physically and emotionally use.

That is a big part of good dog training isn't it

Another side is that just one very extreme frightening experience can make a dog suddenly generalise that experience - so it could even happen that the dogs become afraid of men who look a bit like CM, and then generalise that to men generally. So he could even be making dogs afraid of men - it happens a lot in training and behaviour, no reason to suspect it's not happening on a tv programme!

Wys
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Couldn't agree more Wys.

Whether you are joking or not this is impossible, dogs do not have the whites of their eyes showing only the iris's so you would not be able to see any red at all unless the eye had been punctured and bleeding. Have you actually ever seen a rabid animal?

There is no evidence that he is a wolf cross, he ceratinly doesn't look it. He did nothing wrong int he programme, he showed no aggression, no OTT behaviour at all and he only reacted when CM kicked him and then spent the rest of the programme fighting for his life only giving up when CM had asphyixated him. The fact that he allowed it to be shown makes you wonder what goes on that isn't shown!

Have to agree here, why is it wrong to treat a supposed wolf cross like this but other dogs are all fair game, is this the wolf cross/lookie likey owners going on about how 'special' their dogs are again?

Shows you don't understand the reasons why this happens!

Prove it, with facts not with what people have said, it is clear to me, and others that he is NOT a wolf cross.

It has already happened at least once if noit twice where his methods have apparently caused serious injury to a dog, I think these have been settled out of court.

It's telling that so many of the really bad episodes have started to disappear. Have you seen how they all disappeared off youtube!
There is a belief that in order for the tssst/shhssst noise he makes to work he uses a shock collar on the dog behind the scenes so the dog associates the noise with a shock, you can see in some dogs by the reaction they give to the noise. In one episode, I believe the dog was a black GSD, he was using the noise saying it worked but behind his back he had the remote for the shock collar! The collar was all balck but could be seen in a few scenes hidden in the fur.
I've seen hm through small dogs onto the floor as well, which is horrific.
I am still absolutely stunned that those who like CM simple cannot see these things and seemingly can justify them to themselves.
Becky

Ooooooooh, such a macho man *laughs* and oh, so clever!

You don't deserve my time. I think you need to grow a pair and grow up while you're at it

A true man doesn't sit on a computer, insulting women and lying about people being violent to their dogs. You are a pathetic joke!

By the way, I'm proud to me a "Millanista" as you put it

Try to stop your petty attack on me and get back to the thread in question! *pities poor "man"*