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20-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Tass 
Not having personally come across something does not always mean it doesn't (rarely), exist but if that possibility isn't accepted, any account of it occurring will be written off as just being no one noticing or correctly reading the signals, perpetuating the view that it never happens.
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20-11-2010, 09:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9bjTkktAxY
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20-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anne-Marie
Oh yes, you know when you've had a black Rottie stare, it can freeze your soul!!
Out of the people who have experienced a Rottie attack without a warning, I wonder how many of these dogs were rescues so had no known 'history' of how the dog was treated previously. Perhaps the ones who did behave in this way were badly treated and had lots of issues? Or, they may have come from homes that didn't socialize them/train them well?
I find it difficult to believe it to be a behaviour trait of a well socialized, well-adjusted dog who has been brought up by a responsible owner.
Absolutley
Even that dreadful day that Ozzy bit Sid, Ozzy DID growl first, I heard him - he didn't just lunge into an attack silently. I have to say I find it very difficult to believe that no warning signals whatsoever have been given prior to an attack. Surely even if a dog didn't growl first, you could tell a lot by body-posture and eye contact and general way it was acting like prior to biting?
I think the amount and type of social skills etc from socialising has a lot to do with how tolerant, how clear the signs are etc.
and no I'm not saying a rescue cant be a good pet in case that is misinterpreted, thats not what I'm saying. Also, consistency... (sp's?!)
I just think that unless a dog has a serious health issue, or is mentally 'unfit' etc that dogs will give a signal, I think there is no way someone can make a valid sweeping statement like 'rotts bite without warning'
In that video link, again, if you have got to know the dog you know the difference between its play growl, happy groan and a 'serious' growl.
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20-11-2010, 10:04 PM
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03-12-2010, 11:19 PM
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05-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Dobermann
I'd agree with that. Silent and still, the stare..
It is a rare event, but it does happen, including some dogs who actively approach and solicit attention and petting from their owner and then may (or may not), unpredictably bite without signalling intent.
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05-12-2010, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Tass
stillness But that silence,and staring are clear warnings, and as such are a very different situation to an attack without warning which, like some others on this thread, I have seen occur, although I wouldn't say it was a behaviour exclusive to Rotts, or that Rotts routinely attack without warning.
It is a rare event, but it does happen, including some dogs who actively approach and solicit attention and petting from their owner and then may (or may not), unpredictably bite without signalling intent.
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05-12-2010, 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Tupacs2legs
yip thats what i meant..there still there
to self)I thought you meant as they were silent, "inactive" signals, rather than vocal, physically extrovert ones that people missed them and so thought it was without warning. Apologises
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07-12-2010, 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by kcggnbambi
Mine, a rescue has never bitten with us. Not even a nip.He is incredibly patient with my two little ones and gives very clear signs when he is unsure or unhappy. My 2 yo son climbs all over him and plays constantly. He can take his toys and Bruce doesn't care (although my heart was in my throat the first 1000 times this happened), he loves the attention. If he's not in the mood (which has been twice) he has a little growl- no teeth bared or anything and then looks at me and waits for me to chase my son away.
Of course they are NEVER unsupervised and I am always within a metre of them but I have honestly never in my life met a dog I would trust with my kids as much as I do my rotti.
He had a hip operation when he was a pup,and has accidentally pulled my son on top of him whilst demanding a tummy rub, he made a whimper as my son was on his bad hip but again just looked at me, didn't flip my son off or anything, just waited for me to intervene.
He uses body language the same as any other dog as far as I can tell. He is strong and calm but playful and protective, but not aggressive.
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