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dollyknockers
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12-05-2007, 08:45 PM
Iwould have done the exact same as you , my god its a dog she owns not a bloody YOYO she can yank back and forth on a peace of lead . the silly old trout my god what kind of life must that poor we dog have not being allowed to socialise with other dogs or ppl and being yanked around on a lead .
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12-05-2007, 09:09 PM
I would have politely requested they desist from swatting at my dog then super-calmly explained to them the error in their thinking.




After which I would allow them to get up off the ground with further advise to remove themselves from my presence rapidly.

When I`m just calm, I`m nice.
When I`m super-calm, I`m not so nice....
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12-05-2007, 09:14 PM
honestly i would have told them a few home truths, but at the end of the day you have a socialable dog something they will never have if they dont allow it to be.
i feel sorry for the pup in their care think of the life its gonna lead.

we took tob to the vets the other day and there was a women with a 6 month lab in there.
i am not kidding even if her pup as much as looked at another dog she was moving it away, barked she held it mouth and said don't, move and she stopped it and held it back.
she must have said this at least 40 times in 10 mins, she was wary of going in the waiting room because of the other dogs, her excuse was its a pup and thinks it can take every thing on, how the hell is it ever going to learn?
although its not my dog she was making my blood boil treating this dog like she was and i almost had no tongue left, god sake get a grip women!
needless to say tob tried to say hello as we walking in,as all dogs do when there at vets some people just dont understand dogs and honestly need to be educated before they get 1.
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13-05-2007, 01:35 PM
we had the old man who said his boxer was friendly which promptly attached itself to bens upper lip.poor ben was screaming, the old man shot off, surprisinly quick for his age, i was ready to shove his stick where the sun didnt shine as well. but it happenede so quick, and i wanted to get ben sorted out.
and my bens the silliest looking dog always with a smile on his face.
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13-05-2007, 04:40 PM
I have been reading this thread in disbelief, just because your dog is lovely and well socialised doesnt mean it has the right to approach any dog. Maybe this lady had her dog on a lead for a good reason, just because you didnt mind obviously she did. I find time after time that many dog owners are sanctimonious know it alls!! Dogs are different just like people are and you all shouldnt condemn people because they do things differently. The fact in itself that she had her dog on lead should have been enough in itself, you obviously dont have that good control of your dog or you would have recalled it instantly and no problems would have occured, if any one should have apologised it should've been you, as your dog was imposing on the other dog. Obviously she shouldnt have touched your dog, but you are not blame free as this thread is implying.
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13-05-2007, 05:26 PM
I think if you are walking your dog in a country park area, you are quite entitled to have your dog off the lead. They are not little robots with instant recall just to satisfy people who have not bothered to socialise their dogs or are too afraid to let them off lead. If you want to walk your dog on a lead, that is fine, but don't expect to impose your beliefs on people who like their dogs to run free, and interact with other dogs as nature intended.
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13-05-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Puppy2006 View Post
I have been reading this thread in disbelief, just because your dog is lovely and well socialised doesnt mean it has the right to approach any dog. Maybe this lady had her dog on a lead for a good reason, just because you didnt mind obviously she did. I find time after time that many dog owners are sanctimonious know it alls!! Dogs are different just like people are and you all shouldnt condemn people because they do things differently. The fact in itself that she had her dog on lead should have been enough in itself, you obviously dont have that good control of your dog or you would have recalled it instantly and no problems would have occured, if any one should have apologised it should've been you, as your dog was imposing on the other dog. Obviously she shouldnt have touched your dog, but you are not blame free as this thread is implying.


1] They had no right to behave in a threatening way to any dog, and remember this is a puppy they were being vile about, not a monster !
2] They treated their own dog appallingly, risking not just physical injury but immense mental damage in terms of pretty much guaranteeing their dog will become fearful and possibly dog aggressive if they themselves have`nt caused it already.

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13-05-2007, 06:28 PM
I never once said that it was unacceptable to have a dog off lead, it is also allowed if you so choose to have your dog on a lead. In most circumstances people have their dog on lead for a reason, which I feel does not need to be justified to anyone. Just because your dogs react in a certain way does not mean that all dogs are alike. Why was this woman being vile just because she didnt want her dog approached by another dog, you would all be up in arms if on your walks your dog was accosted by some rampaging vicious dog. the majority of you seem to be very judgemental of the other owner without once trying to see things from her perspective.
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13-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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The woman immediately yanked the Spaniel puppy away (which made it squeal ) and started swatting at Beauford like a fly and shooing him away. I was surprised by this reaction, he's a big dog but he's not bloody Cujo - so I walked up smiling and tried to put their mind at rest, telling them not to worry, he's a puppy too and he's not dangerous, he's just trying to 'meet' their dog. I got stared at like I'd just grown another head, the woman was continually yanking this Spaniel away on the lead (which was now screaming and falling over when yanked) whenever Beauford got near, whilst swatting at him and saying "why don't you put that horrible thing on a lead!"

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The bloke then cut in and informed me 'people like me' were why 'people often don't like dogs' and that I gave 'responsible dog owners a bad name'.

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All I can say is that what followed was a 'full and frank exchange of views' before I was called a bitch and told that
'a dog like that should be on a lead at all times'.
Why was the woman being vile??

Swatting someone else's dog and insulting someone else's dog are acceptable forms of behaviour now??
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13-05-2007, 06:42 PM
so the fact this person is yanking and inflicting pain on their own pup to the degree its pulling the dog of its feet is a good thing.

while i understand what your saying in the fact some dogs are kept on lead for a reason what ever it may be, no one has the right to hit a dog.
this is a pup approaching another pup i would hope most ppl can tell the difference between a dog saying hello to 1 which is going in for the kill.

both my leos are on and off lead, on so ppl dont get scared when approching due to size and not knowing them and off with ppl who know as big as they are they won't fear for their own dogs.
if any dog approaches ours when out even on lead we still allow the dogs to sniff etc its 1 of the basic insincts in any dog.
yes a few dogs have had a go at them when they have ran up and think they can take them on, i simply move them on because if tob took exception to a dog he will stand his ground to stop the pestering.
he will also protect the other he out with to the degree he will block the affending dog from reaching the rest.
i allow my dogs to make the call if they find the dog offensive and allow them to be what they are a dog.
if some one asked me to keep them away i would no one wants their dog wounded due to a fight, but unless any dog is given the chance to mix / play / socialise with others then thats were problems are created.

my parents have a lhasa they got him at 10 months even now at 3 he doesnt know what to do or re act to a strange dog, he automatically barks etc on sight this is all because he wasnt given the chance to mix as a pup.
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