I'm not sure ! It could be re-written I suppose, although I'm not sure of the ins and outs of how or who would do it, or how you even get that recognised when someone does !!

Having said that I think Breed Clubs should probably have more involvement, which would include important input re the breed standard from breed specialists maybe !!

I agree, it's a whole new world, but the KC started somewhere and so did Virgin !

There is so much to it that would need to be defined, I agree, which would take a long time, but I for one would think it a worthwhile project

Good question. I would imagine that somewhere along the line any new club/association etc has to gain some kind of recognition for this purpose, but without knowing how to go about that, I can't really comment :smt042

If it were to go ahead, that would be something that would need to be looked into and approach other worldwide KCs to enquire it.

Obviously all showing on the same recognised system would be what was aimed for I would assume

They do have the autority to check that people are really adhering to the Accredited Breeder Scheme though. I heard it from someone who has recently spoken to a man who has been out to do the checks. Apparently they do up to 8 checks a month, and suspend about 2 'Accredited Breeders'...most visits are prompted by complaints but they will just pop in if they are in the area apparently. So there are checks done...maybe not enough but still.
I do think it would be far better if there was less in fighting and more time spent on campaigning within the KC, I have to say a different register, IMO just wouldn't get off the ground,too many people have a vested interest...like Cruftsfor a starter...

I'd have thought it a little like the accredited breeder scheme the KC have in place at the moment only a lot better. With all the tests, dna profiling and perhaps either a certain amount/type of places to be won by the dog and/or experienced members in the breed or from the breed clubs having gone over the dogs concerned in the mating (if the dogs are not being shown) to decide if they are of a high enough quality to be bred from and registered under the new scheme.

Therefore the dogs are primarily registered with the KC but this new scheme is a bit of an extra just like the accredited breeder scheme at present but not directly connected with the KC. A seperate body but the dogs also have to be KC reg to be accepted anyway. Therefore breeders have the choice of registering their dogs with the new scheme if they do indeed pass the criteria, and if it were in time well enough publicised the general public would know where to go for a better quality dog if they so wanted one.

Hopefully when it was well enough established more and more people would have their dogs registered under this new scheme as well as the KC, and the dogs who were only KC registered would become less and less in demand.

In a perfect world anyway as that's just off the top of my head though so i'm sure it will get ripped to shreds, lol!

Ask any reputable breeder here what the accredited breeder scheme means.

The KC don't check on any other breeder outside of the scheme though, so registrations of the rest of puppies are completely unpoliced, making the whole thing fre for anyone unethical to use !!

Not only that but it isn't compulsory, therefore all the puppy farmers, just dont join it, simple !!

Crufts ay have a vested interest in it, but if they realised that all the top ethical breeders were using another system and enough people joined, they would have to sit up and listen, unlike the Ignorance of the KC to it's members.

Exactly. I for one would be happy that there would finally be a distinction between normal KC reg pups and the newly Reg pups, so that people know for definate that what they are getting is legit and well thought through and not from someone who just wants to farm puppies.

I would much rather work with the KC but I don't see why I should pay more to a registry which I am unable to have any say in because I do it properly, what they should do is make registrations cheaper for those dogs that are fully health tested etc and charge more for everyone else!
Becky

The KC do, I can assure you, but only when they've been advised by other people of matters that may not be followed by certain breeders.

The KC are getting there, albeit slowly, but they are definitely improving.

There is another register that we all have seen use Championship names of totally different breeds etc. so this registery hasn't worked either!

Get onto the KC if you are unhappy, write letters and hopefully if enough people complain things will happen.

It's a slow process but I do know that they do go and see people, they do follow up some queries and they have removed certain "credits" from breeders.

I must admit I've never complained about anyone, although have asked in general why people can breed without doing health tests that the breed club recommends and have accredited breeder credits to their names.

Until more of us stand up and are counted and complain nothings going to happen and I'm sorry I cannot see another registry improving things and as many breeds do not have enough information to do DNA testing for certain illnesses over here in the UK I think it will be hard to do this, but I must admit I'm looking forward to the day when all dogs be them pedigrees or crossbreeds are all done with DNA tests before they are bred from. But in reality you are always going to get the people that will never in a million years sign up with any registry.

The DNA issue isnt' about health but about proof of progeny, something the KC refuse to implement, even after requests by many breed clubs.

The DLC hasn't worked because they ask for no proof of anything and allow the registration of any dogs names and breeds etc on face value.

Many people, Clubs, Societies and Breed Clubs 'have' indeed filed complaints to the KC about certain aspects of registrations and breeders, myself included and the KC actually tried to tell me they were correct in informing a potential puppy buyer that a puppy farmer was reputable on the grounds that they KC register their puppies, therefore they must be !!! :shock