What about Working drive?

I would call that an extension of either of the others. Working being prey driven (generally)and sport (obecience/agility/HtM) being (usually) toy driven.

What would happen Adam, if you let your dogs into a room with a fluffy skin/large toy in the middle of it? You have terriers yes? Which must display similar traits to mine. If I put a Fox pelt on the floor and let mine in, they would immediately pile in and rip it to shreds, I could show you that, but a toy they would rush to and ignore. Which is the prey drive and which is the "ball" drive? Dogs are taught to fetch balls, a dogs instinct means it will kill something it sees as prey.

no confusion, its all the same

Id also say That was different jasmine my Collie does flyball and we recently started comp ob. She loves doing both and gets very giddy but there is a huge difference in her behaviour for each. Flyball she goes psychotic lol ob she barks at me jumps up and offers various behaviour no matter her reward she would still be just as giddy. In flyball she won't take treats or raggy. All she wants is that ball

Ohh good point! Mine would tear it apart tbh. They do regularly chase live prey as well.

Adam

flyball is a perfect example of a activity for simulating prey drive

In what way?

I think I agree with this - sort of.

I didn't really teach Loki to chase things, he does anyway. Like, for instance, this morning, a tyre in a field.

But he didn't want to rip it to shreds, he went for it full on, had a go at 'fighting' it (bum in the air, lots of growling etc.) and then left it.

So it was a sort of "expression" of the prey drive, as Kruse said. A way of expressing that urge or need, if you like, without it being the real thing.

I think.

the intense burst of the run up and attacking of the ball.

nothing else matters, all emotion and energy is concentrated upon the prey....all sensory input and output is channelled into nought but this objective.

hence why the dogs go crazy and cannot be diverted onto treats etc and the collies jump up at the owners at the end either ragging their sleeves or the tuggie