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02-02-2010, 05:59 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nnibalism.html
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02-02-2010, 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble 
The also have to be kept in smaller herds/flocks etc...all the reading I have done on this assumes organic animals are free range...and organically fed and treated.
Obviously we aren't an organic farm, but I would say our sheep and lambs live a very natural and happy lifestyle on a heather covered hillside - they can't be any more free range than they are
Yes, they are routinely wormed, jagged and dosed, but this means they remain as healthy as possible.We don't own the farm where we live and work at the moment, but do want our own place in the future and I would be very interested in the organic side of farming, as well as conservation of wildlife too, so am finding this thread very interesting
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02-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by tinkladyv
Organically-raised animals must have access to the outdoors, including access to pasture for ruminants.
I am genuinely interested, as I was always led to believe that organic does not always mean free range.
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02-02-2010, 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Moobli
Please see link ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nnibalism.html
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02-02-2010, 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
The also have to be kept in smaller herds/flocks etc...all the reading I have done on this assumes organic animals are free range...and organically fed and treated.
I think they are talking about chicken?
From CIWF
"The Soil Association Organic Standard provides the highest welfare levels in the UK e.g. smaller flock sizes for chickens and no live exporting of dairy calves."
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02-02-2010, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
I have no doubt...but not quite sure of the relevance of that in the discussion of free range vs organic, bad things can happen on any farm.
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02-02-2010, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Moobli
Where is your info from please? I am really interested in all this, as I have been led to believe that organic does not always mean free range, unless it is labelled organic AND free range.
Obviously we aren't an organic farm, but I would say our sheep and lambs live a very natural and happy lifestyle on a heather covered hillside - they can't be any more free range than they are
Yes, they are routinely wormed, jagged and dosed, but this means they remain as healthy as possible.We don't own the farm where we live and work at the moment, but do want our own place in the future and I would be very interested in the organic side of farming, as well as conservation of wildlife too, so am finding this thread very interesting
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02-02-2010, 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Moobli
That is true, but the relevance of it was that organic is being held up as a shining example of all farming should be - but it isn't always the case.
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02-02-2010, 07:09 PM
http://www.soilassociation.org/Whyor...4/Default.aspx
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02-02-2010, 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Did you read the links I posted? A quick google of organic meat will throw up loads of info. I have yet to see meat labelled as organic and free range..I have never known that, it is either free range..or organic, the term organic tends to assume free range because of the standards of animal welfare.
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