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Fernsmum
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14-11-2008, 10:09 PM
Please don't put you pup down in a park until fully vaccinated . By all means carry him out to let him see things but only put him down in your garden if it is secure and no unvaccinated dogs can get in .
Parvo is about just now and the risk is just not worth it
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14-11-2008, 10:13 PM
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From a personal choice i wouldn't put a puppy on the ground until fully vaccinated. I defo carry it and introduce it to as many things as you can noice wise, transport wise and meeting people etc.,
Some people don't have vaccinations but that is the personal choice, I do. I'bve seen distemper and the way the dog fits resulting in loss of life, and although it is said that there is no guarantee even with vaccines they can not catch it or Parvo, it is IMO a help.

Hope you enjoy your Puppy
Totally agree with this too.
It really, really isn't worth the risk.
I would never call any area safe either as you can never be 100% sure, and 1% risk is too much for my pups.

The time will soon pass and they have the rest of their lives to go out and about, so just socialise in arms until then.
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14-11-2008, 10:30 PM
Vaccines can kill too ................ just because a dog is vaccinated does not mean it is safe from the awful diseases .....

I don't NOT vaccinate to save cash or out of laziness but from my own experience and choices - not that I suggest to other people - everyone makes their own choices.

Two of my dogs have never ever been vaccinated - now aged 9 and 4 - we do have titre tests run periodically and both are absolutely fine immunity level wise ...
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14-11-2008, 10:31 PM
Originally Posted by Fernsmum View Post
Please don't put you pup down in a park until fully vaccinated . By all means carry him out to let him see things but only put him down in your garden if it is secure and no unvaccinated dogs can get in .
Parvo is about just now and the risk is just not worth it
Also as fernsmum says....outbreak of Parvo happens in areas. Parvo is a real killer, and by the way you can not see these diseases.......and by the time you realise your Pup has it, it is usually to late.
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14-11-2008, 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Muddiwarx View Post
Vaccines can kill too ................ just because a dog is vaccinated does not mean it is safe from the awful diseases .....

I don't NOT vaccinate to save cash or out of laziness but from my own experience and choices - not that I suggest to other people - everyone makes their own choices.

Two of my dogs have never ever been vaccinated - now aged 9 and 4 - we do have titre tests run periodically and both are absolutely fine immunity level wise ...
I must say, I have heard a lot of negative stuff about the vaccs, particular with Chihuahuas, as they apparently (so I am told) give the same amount of vaccine to a 1lb Chihuahua as they do, say, a German Shepherd pup!

I tended to wait until each of mine were 1 kilo before I got them their vaccs, which in one of my smaller girls, wasn't until she was 4 months!

The only one I had sooner, because I was being pressured by my Daughter, who said I was being overprotective, had her done at 9 weeks and about 1.5lbs and she became very ill and ended up with an overnight stay at the Vets needing re-hydration and meds. She was very ill and they wasn't even sure she would "make it" - the little minx was fine by next day and the Vet said she "probably had a reaction to the vaccs" - learned my lesson there.

Have wondered about the titre tests, will definitely look into that
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14-11-2008, 10:43 PM
I wouldn't take the risk. Many years ago I lost a german shepherd puppy to parvo. The only place he had been was for both his first and second injections at the vets. He was carried in and placed straight on the table. I can only assume he picked up the parvo from the vets table when he had his second injection. The vet tried really hard to save him, but sadly he just faded away So if a healthy, vaccinated puppy can still get it, why take the risk with a puppy who is even more vulnerable?
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14-11-2008, 10:44 PM
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Have wondered about the titre tests, will definitely look into that
Worth it - costs about the same as boosters I think
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14-11-2008, 11:15 PM
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Worth it - costs about the same as boosters I think
The advice on the rest of this thread is sound but I have doubts about the above quote.
I apologise for cutting and pasting

Unfortunately it is known that serological response is not always equivalent to protection from disease. In my own proffesional area of interest (not even close to dog vaccines) it is regularly demonstrated that an antibody response is NOT protective. That doesn't stop the vaccine companies trying.

a key point is that if the more profiteering ideas were true there would be three or more vaccines on the market. In fact Scientists have blocked there production as they are not effective. In my view ineffective in medicine is equivalent to harmful.
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15-11-2008, 12:42 PM
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Hi,
Our Puppy Murphy is coming to live with us shortly and when he arrives he will be 8 weeks old and will have had his first injections.

My question is it safe for us to take him out to our local park providing he doesn't come into contact with other dogs before his second set of injections? The park is quite and I am reasonably confident we would not come across other dogs. I would not take him out for a long time just 15 - 20 minutes maximum.

What do you all advise?
Absoultly not, it's not just contact with other doggies but your pup will sniff the ground and dogs wee and poo there. So please don't be tempted it's not worth the risk hun

It's the same with children now. Less parents are having their children immunised and the raise in rubella and measles is at an all time high there were 19 cases reported in Liverpool only last week (measles) people don't realise how dangerous Measles can be.
I would vaccinate absolutly
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15-11-2008, 01:55 PM
I carried my puppy before first jab and for about a week after. The first jab made her ill and my vet said he would not risk the same brand again, so I had to wait till she was 12 weeks till she had her second dose of a different brand of vaccine. I made the decision to start taking her out before the second jab. She was too heavy to carry by then and I feel she needed the socialisation. The first place I took her was the beach, as it is rarely used by anyone where I live and the tide comes in twice a day. That's about as clean as you can get IMO. She's 14 weeks now and used to traffic, people and other dogs.
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