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Aunty Amanda
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15-05-2008, 08:16 AM
I disagree. The reality is that we'd all prefer not to have damaged hounds however to actively discourage not only people from rehoming them, but to destroy them is damaging for the dogs here and now.

greyhounds are ‘well known for the murderous instincts’

If racing greyhounds are bred solely for racing, then would it not be more sensible to regard them as we would a cow or a sheep?…at the end of their life, such animals are humanely destroyed…If we accept that animals have no anticipation of death or fear of it, then humane euthanasia at any stage and any state of health can be seen as acceptable.’


“seem to attack other dogs without realising they are the same species”, “chase and kill small prey”, “kills animals on a regular basis”, “countless owners have lost sheep, cats, rabbits and dogs to greyhounds”

Sorry but I have no idea how anyone can defend any of these statements by this woman. Anti-racing - nope I see it as anti-greyhound.
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15-05-2008, 09:50 AM
That's your right, but perhaps the owners of the little dog would differ. She was pointing out that greyhounds do have their problems, as does any breed. Any one involved in rescuing and rehoming them would surely agree anyway and therefore be careful when rehoming them???
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15-05-2008, 10:04 AM
I do not agree with greyhound racing, I also hate what happens to the dogs that are not lucky enough to find homes when they have either come to the end of their racing days or do not 'meet the grade'.... However, greyhounds do have a gaming instinct like alot of other dogs and they also chase smaller animals, my aunts rescue greyhounds have to go out with a muzzle if she is off lead... her old greyhound also took a dislike to my last setter! That is why I believe every care and caution should be taken when rehoming and rehabilitating them to home life!
But yes racing should be abolished until they can guarantee the safety of every dog/pup bred to do it...
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15-05-2008, 10:33 AM
I hate the way they use the dog, which work very hard for them and then they just dump them if there not up to scratch or get to old!
Just dump them like abit of rubbish or something, is not on.
Does anyone know if threre are alot of dog injurys, there must be, But I mean does it happen in most races or is it not that commom?
I dont agree with it, but I also dont no that much about it either?
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15-05-2008, 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble View Post
That's your right, but perhaps the owners of the little dog would differ. She was pointing out that greyhounds do have their problems, as does any breed. Any one involved in rescuing and rehoming them would surely agree anyway and therefore be careful when rehoming them???
As the owner of a big dog, personally I get bloody pizzed off with small dog owners who think it funny when their little dog snaps at mine. But thats a different debate.

As for small furries - I've always had a cat with my five and to date, no issues.

Want to take you seriously but frankly, I can't for some reason...

Anyway what has your post got to do with rescuing and rehoming greyhounds? Someone told me a few weeks ago its harder to get a greyhound from a greyhound rescue than any other breed rescue because they do such stringent homechecks.

And Emma Milne wasn't pointing out that greyhounds 'have their problems'. She was pointing out that they are'well known for their murderous instincts'. She misrepresented the breed as a whole. She also could have potentially set back the image that they are fantastic pets years. Which would have, of course, ended with even less of these dogs finding a home.


Originally Posted by settagirl View Post
That is why I believe every care and caution should be taken when rehoming and rehabilitating them to home life!
But yes racing should be abolished until they can guarantee the safety of every dog/pup bred to do it...
See above - every care should be taken when any dog is rehomed. Am thinking people-aggressive dogs - which tends not to be a greyhound trait. the only one of mine that has to be muzzled when outside tends to hate bigger dogs - in particular black labs, which he hates with a passion. He's nervous of small dogs especially two little dogs who bark and lunge at him when they see him.

The difficulty is that in order to have an industry the way it is now, they need that number of dogs. Without the numbers, they'd have no industry. Thats why reduction in breeding couldn't work and as we're already aware, there cant' ever be enough homes for the sheer number therefore there is various ways of disposing of them.


Originally Posted by hades View Post
I hate the way they use the dog, which work very hard for them and then they just dump them if there not up to scratch or get to old!
Just dump them like abit of rubbish or something, is not on.
Does anyone know if threre are alot of dog injurys, there must be, But I mean does it happen in most races or is it not that commom?
I dont agree with it, but I also dont no that much about it either?
Yes there are a lot of injury's to hounds while racing. i was quoted 12% of greyhounds racing are carrying an injury of some kind. But thats a very loose estimate and I'm not sure the source of that figure. Look in the Racing Post - any time we want an example of a hound being injured, you just have to look in there as there are always reports.

Its not unusual for a hound to die on track due to the injury it sustains either.

The other issue with injuries is drugging with anti-inflammatories etc. so it races without feeling the pain. I have an example of that happening lying on my couch. She broke her hock on track and was put back on after only four weeks recuperation. She raced in Ireland and when she sustained another injury, she was handed to the dog warden for destruction. Fortunately she never made it to the pound... My vet (former track vet and greyhound specialist) stated at the time that there was no doubt that she had been drugged. Having nursed another hound with a fractured hock, I'd confirm that it took about three months to heal.
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15-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble View Post
That's your right, but perhaps the owners of the little dog would differ. She was pointing out that greyhounds do have their problems, as does any breed. Any one involved in rescuing and rehoming them would surely agree anyway and therefore be careful when rehoming them???

No she was pointing out that all dogs attacks against other dogs where down to Greyhounds because the SPORT made them KILLERS.


She has also stated that Ped dogs because of the Illness they have, and cross breeds do not have,that no Ped dogs should be breed, only cross breeds.


You do not take the view that its down to BLAME THE DEED NOT THE BREED so the Genoicd of the Greyhound is the way to go.

And Lurchers.


And Whippets

And any hunting dog.


Or do you except the CRAP that this stupid women thinks that some Greyhounds are KILLERS so the whole breed has to die out.


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I am sure there are thousands of Greyhounds that have been rehomed successfully and am not suggesting that they are all bad, but do the good justify the actions of the bad, and can we afford to take those risks?

This is an attack on the Breed its self and not the Industry.

Other quote

[B] I am not a fan of dog racing and personally wouldn`t be at all upset if did not exist. There are people who would be upset to see the breed disappear,but if a breed of dog kills animals on a regular basis/B]
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15-05-2008, 01:34 PM
Aunty Amanda, I was talking of taking into consideration the enviroment in which they would be living, i.e small dogs/cats/small pets etc... when I said my bit. I know greyhounds are beautiful dogs, there are a few near me and a smashing grey and white one adores my Deacon
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15-05-2008, 01:39 PM
Galty. Have to go lie down because I think we may be on the same side

Except if greyhounds had to die out in order for them to stop dying in their thousands, I'd accept that which I think you would disagree with


Settagirl - my point was more aimed at the post above yours
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15-05-2008, 01:40 PM
For what it's worth, I live in a very Country orientated area where there are lots of Greys and Lurchers etc, and I have never heard of either attacking anything. We always have a local Grey/Lurcher Companion show locally and have atteneded for the last 3 years as we know people who own them, and again, even talking to experienced long time owners of them, never heard of an unruly one that has attacked anything.
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15-05-2008, 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by galty View Post
No she was pointing out that all dogs attacks against other dogs where down to Greyhounds because the SPORT made them KILLERS.


She has also stated that Ped dogs because of the Illness they have, and cross breeds do not have,that no Ped dogs should be breed, only cross breeds.


You do not take the view that its down to BLAME THE DEED NOT THE BREED so the Genoicd of the Greyhound is the way to go.

And Lurchers.


And Whippets

And any hunting dog.


Or do you except the CRAP that this stupid women thinks that some Greyhounds are KILLERS so the whole breed has to die out.


Quote from her Artical


I am sure there are thousands of Greyhounds that have been rehomed successfully and am not suggesting that they are all bad, but do the good justify the actions of the bad, and can we afford to take those risks?

This is an attack on the Breed its self and not the Industry.

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[B] I am not a fan of dog racing and personally wouldn`t be at all upset if did not exist. There are people who would be upset to see the breed disappear,but if a breed of dog kills animals on a regular basis/B]
Blimey, she is a prize pratt!! Never liked her anyway.
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