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12-09-2012, 04:23 PM
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Yes that sounds logical. When he first came to live with me he would start searching the house. It took a long time to get him to work ONLY when on the harness.

The trouble I have with training right now (a downside to having this type of dog) is food and praise are not a reward...its all about BALLS. If he were a pet, I would remove the balls...but he works for balls. It is his job.

Seems I need to teach settle. I have been thinking about massage to help.
Everything with men is about balls

Re massage: perhaps try Ttouch?
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12-09-2012, 04:25 PM
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He is a Drug detection dog. He is worked both in this professional field and he takes a gundog class once a week - as an alternative to puppy socialisation mainly. He spends a lot of the day working.

As the behaviour is so fast I ignore, there is no time to correct. I will redirect him to a kong or bone in a quiet place with a "sit" but the energy does't allow him to sit any more than 15 minutes.
When you say he is a drug detection dog is he yours or is he an official dog that you handle? Asking as I wondered if you have total control or you work to a trainer?

I think he is doing too much probably and is over stimulated. I certainly wouldn't want to increase the exercise, that will make it worse. How much self control stuff do you do?

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12-09-2012, 04:29 PM
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Asking as I wondered if you have total control or you work to a trainer?


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I have total control (mwhahaha). He lives and works with me. He will also stay with me.

Previous to this behaviour he has been allowed to wander throughout the house and garden with toys/bones and what not. Just recently its like he has ADHD.

Looks like I need to do some settling training
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12-09-2012, 05:16 PM
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I have total control (mwhahaha). He lives and works with me. He will also stay with me.

Previous to this behaviour he has been allowed to wander throughout the house and garden with toys/bones and what not. Just recently its like he has ADHD.

Looks like I need to do some settling training
I'd go that way.

Also lots of self control stuff.

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12-09-2012, 06:37 PM
You have created/encouraged an adrenaline junkie, a common mistake especially with high driver dogs.

The more exercise you give a dog of this type, the more he will want due to the endorphins released.

Mental exercise is what he needs, I would also be very careful not to overdo the ball games in an immature dog as twisting and turning the musculo skeletal system at this age is inadvisable.

Canine massage is very useful I find (in my dog anyway) who is slightly off his trolley!
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12-09-2012, 06:43 PM
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You have created/encouraged an adrenaline junkie, a common mistake especially with high driver dogs.

The more exercise you give a dog of this type, the more he will want due to the endorphins released.

Mental exercise is what he needs, I would also be very careful not to overdo the ball games in an immature dog as twisting and turning the musculo skeletal system at this age is inadvisable.

Canine massage is very useful I find (in my dog anyway) who is slightly off his trolley!

It wasn't a mistake.

Ball games are part of the job I'm afraid. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. We do not put our dogs at risk.
He gets the mental exercise.

I think, as advised by other members I need to work more closely training settle in this dog.

Thanks anyway!
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12-09-2012, 06:58 PM
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It wasn't a mistake.

Ball games are part of the job I'm afraid. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. We do not put our dogs at risk.
He gets the mental exercise.

I think, as advised by other members I need to work more closely training settle in this dog.

Thanks anyway!
I think I have a bit of a grasp on how search dogs are trained and the importance of balls and the type of dog

As I said, mental exercise is what he needs, if he got enough, he would not be "hyperactive".


Impulse control is an essential requirement in a search dog, IME.
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12-09-2012, 07:05 PM
If I am honest with you, part of his hyperactivity is his inability to switch from working to not working quickly. Something which is being worked on by myself and with other trainers in my field.

He gets ALOT of mental stimulation...I wouldn't give him anymore. He struggles to rest. Even at night he will fall down before he volunteers himself to bed. He is excellent at switching off when crated.

His impulse control at work and outside the house is fine. He is a grade A worker right now.

It is only in the house that we have an issue. I will take on the advice to practise massage and a trained "settle"
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12-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Though, If you'd like to get yourself a CRB check and come spend the day with us to test the theory you're welcome
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12-09-2012, 07:17 PM
Also remember he is a young, enthusiastic dog. He will no doubt calm down somewhat with age as well
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