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08-04-2011, 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by Azz 
But this is a dog lovers forum where you're more than likely going to encounter... animal lovers
Who are obviously going to want to air their opinion on the matter
As for being animal lovers, I'm a vegetarian, but I don't feel the need to ram it down peoples throats (so to speak)
As I said, common decency costs nothing.
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08-04-2011, 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Luthien
Why you should make a new thread is just common decency. We were having a discussion. About betting on horses. If you don't like betting on horses, either say nowt, or air your views elsewhere. I will be pleased to read it. Just don't barge into other peoples conversations, telling them how awful they are. It is rude, and you will not get your point across.
Originally Posted by Azz
I don't really know much about it, but if it's as gruelling as Ramble and others are suggesting then I, as an animal lover, am against it too.
Originally Posted by Azz
Lol chill, we're just airing our opinions - if you ignore them then a discussion can't take place
Originally Posted by Vicki
Hateful, HATEFUL race......
Almost every year a tragedy, and STILL it continues.....
WHY?
Originally Posted by Nippy
I can see Luthiens point, the discussion is about what bets we are laying on tomorrows race, not the pros and cons of the race it's self.
I think I will take a stroll to the bookies tomorrow for my 2 choices
Originally Posted by esmed
Me too but I wanted to acknowledge Ramble's contribution to the thread even though it's maybe not the response I was looking for.
As I have said it is incredibly sad that horses die in these races or as a result of them but with no disrespect intended I am often dubious of the types of sites given in the links posted as they only paint one side of the story.
These horses are trained for such events and it never seems like the horses don't enjoy it.
The horses are being whipped...they are trained from a young age to get the adrenalin rush required to race
Originally Posted by Tassle
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Originally Posted by Azz
But this is a dog lovers forum where you're more than likely going to encounter... animal lovers
Who are obviously going to want to air their opinion on the matter
Originally Posted by Luthien
No problem with it Azz, but it is not helpful to normal conversation. I have no problem with anyone airing their opinion, but when a few members are having a conversation, I do find it a bit rude for someone to butt in and tell us we are all wrong.
As for being animal lovers, I'm a vegetarian, but I don't feel the need to ram it down peoples throats (so to speak)
As I said, common decency costs nothing.
So...tell me,I really am keen to know, do you think it is acceptable that so many horses are injured and die at The National?
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08-04-2011, 09:14 PM
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08-04-2011, 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
What are the statistics on deaths at the Grand NAtional, ie in both numbers and as a percentage of horses that run?
Is it more acceptable for horses to die during a race if there are more running?
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08-04-2011, 09:20 PM
I asked a question.
It is not acceptable that so many people die in RTAs, air crashes, capsizings does not mean I want roads or cars, planes or boats banned.
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08-04-2011, 09:22 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
I am trying very hard, but I cannot see where I used the word "acceptable" in my post?
I asked a question.
It is not acceptable that so many people die in RTAs, air crashes, capsizings does not mean I want roads or cars, planes or boats banned.
I did - I responded to your question with one of my own.
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08-04-2011, 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by Luthien
So tell me Ramble, which horse are you betting on?
Oh, sorry, that was a different thread wasn't it?
I've answered your question...how about you answer mine.
Originally Posted by smokeybear
What are the statistics on deaths at the Grand NAtional, ie in both numbers and as a percentage of horses that run?
Here's a non animal aid article from 2009:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...l-horse-racing
and I quote:
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08-04-2011, 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
I am trying very hard, but I cannot see where I used the word "acceptable" in my post?
I asked a question.
It is not acceptable that so many people die in RTAs, air crashes, capsizings does not mean I want roads or cars, planes or boats banned.
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