May I ask what is beet pulp? What makes it such a bad thing?

Please excuse my ignorance!

It is not a bad thing


It is the residue of the sugar beet industry and is source of fibre and, more importantly, FOS = fructo oligosaccharides, which are a valuable source of prebiotics for gut flora health.

Prebiotics have a synergistic effect with probiotics.

I see, so technically beet pulp in foods would have no effect on dogs..or perhaps even good effects, rather than causing problems?

Okies..im not as good as SB...but here goes


Complete pet food for puppies from 6 weeks to 24 months.

Scary thought, giving this carp to a 6 week old pup!


Available in: 1kg e, 6kg e, 12.5 kg
Composition
Cereals (25% ), Hmmmm...dogs dont need cereals...be nice if they could tell us exactly what the cereals are...most likely be the cheapest they can get at the point of manufactuer!
Meat and animal derivatives ( 26% meat in the chunk, 4% beef in the brown kernels), So again, doesnt tell me exactly what is in this. Could be a mix of different species, and different body parts. Tis only 4% beef
Vegetable protein extracts, which is what exactly?

Oils & fats, from what source?
Various sugars, do dogs need sugar?
Derivatives of vegetable origin, scrappings from that factory floor?
Minerals, which?
Vegetables ( 4% vegetable in the green & yellow kernels). what veg exactly...could be good veg, could be bad veg. Probs not Birds eye Petis pois tho!
With Colourants, antioxidants and preservatives. why does the dog need its food coloured? they are supposed to be colour blind! Smarties and Skittles spring to mind!


IU/kg: Vit A: 24 000 ; Vit D3: 1 400 ; Vit E: 110
mg/kg: Fe(E1): 100 ; I(E2): 2.5 ; Cu(E4): 11 ;
Mn(E5): 7.5 ; Zn(E6): 180 ; Se(E: 0.24.
With colourants, antioxidants and preservatives
Analytical Constituents
Protein 28.0%
Fat content 12.0%
Crude ash 8.0%
Crude fibres 2.0%

Pedigree Complete Junior Poultry & Rice

Ingredients:
Grains (min. 4% rice, min 4% maize), So what is the rest. Maize IME is not a good chouce for dogs
meat and animal by-products (incl. min. 4% chicken), By products...so again absolutely anything they can lay their hands on cheaply at the point of manufactuer!
oils and fats (min. 0.6% fish oil), woo hoo 0.6%! what is the rest of the oil and fat?
vegetable protein extracts, from what source? vegetable by-products (min. 4% sugar beet pulp), what is the rest of it?
minerals. whch?
Supplemented with:
Vitamin A (9,700 IU / kg), vitamin D3 (970 IU / kg), vitamin E (190 mg / kg), copper as copper (II)-sulphate (12 mg / kg), glucosamine (150 mg / kg) , eicosapentaenoic acid and docosapentaenoic acid (1,600 mg / kg). With antioxidants (BHA, BHT, propyl gallate) and EC additives. what additives?

I would not feed either of these foods (the thought of Kerrie on Bakers...shudder...she is a enough of a nutter)

The thing with these (and many like them) is that the label does not tell the consumer the full story. Animal derivatives/by products covers a whole host of sins, can be anything combo of parts/animals.

Plus as I have said (I think...my brain doesnt work too well on a wednesday!) they are not cheap, you have to feed an awful lot to fill the dog, and then it is carp. In many dogs, these foods can cause behavioural problems (hell id be wired if I ate nothing but Bakers)

Many foods out there for similar price that are much better than these!

I am sure there are dogs that have intolerances to SBP just like anything else, but far from being JUST a filler (as some people consider) it does have a useful purpose.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong in animal by products, they are mostly the stuff left over from what humans eat, ie the stuff we are too squeamish to eat!

Vegetable protein is usually soya, not always.

I would not choose to feed this food however.

I am not sure there are GOOD or BAD vegetables apart from soya beans for dogs which is the usual source of protein or lupins, etc.

Thank-you for clearing that up for me

Sums up what I was going to say!